Coping With Epilepsy International Society for Neurofeedback and Research
Free Advertisement
 

Go Back   Epilepsy Forum > Our House > The Foyer


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-12-2010, 05:38 PM
New Here
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Topomax


Hello
I just found this forum and thought this would be a good place to ask a question about Topomax and Kidney Stones. I was taking 300mg of Topomax and 400mg of lamictal perday for Grand Mal siezures I passed a small kidney stone almost 20 months ago. The doctors made me ween off the Topomax (reluctantly) over the last 5 months , citing that I would destroy my kidney.
Since I weened down to 25-50mg perday of Topomax I started having siezures again. The reports say there is a 1% chance of stones and the 300mg of topomax with Lamictal was the only meds that worked well together that kept me siezure free the longest. Now the doc wants me to start taking vimpat?
From what I read here vimpat is not so good for many reasons. So I am thinking of pushing the issue with Topomax and increasing the dose..............

BTW Lamictal is good no side effects
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-12-2010, 05:49 PM
epileric's Avatar
Super Moderator / Spaminator
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,849
Thanks: 159
Thanked 719 Times in 605 Posts

Welcome FIC


Glad you found us. Sorry you had to experience a kidney stone just to try another anti-epileptic drug. I have tried Vimpat & topomax but those times are such a haze I can't remember which was which, just that they didn't work for me.

Despite what you've read about Vimpat remember that all effects these meds have, good & bad differ from person to person. It just might be one that works for you & you don't want to miss it. The only way to know is to try it.

And on the medication merry-go round we go.
__________________
"It's no longer a question of staying healthy. It's a question of finding a sickness you like." -Jackie Mason
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-12-2010, 05:49 PM
Super Moderator / Thank You Queen
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 7,546
Thanks: 206
Thanked 1,899 Times in 1,627 Posts
Hi FIC,

The anti-epileptic drugs affect everyone differently. So for instance, you might have no problems with Lamictal, but someone else will have intolerable side effects while on it. Same goes with Vimpat -- it might be lousy for others but turn out to be perfect for you. There's no way to predict. I understand you wanting to go back on the Topomax -- better the devil you know, right? -- but if you've already had one kidney stone on it, I think it's worth giving Vimpat a chance. And there are other meds out there to try. Definitely discuss with your doctor what your options are if the Vimpat doesn't work out.

Best,
Nakamova
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-12-2010, 08:49 PM
New Here
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I guess one of the questions I have is ........has anyone on this forum or that you have heard of had any stones from Topomax? The only drug I ever had any side affect from is Keppra , that turned me into a raging maniac(kep-rage). Otherwise I have no side affects from any other meds. I also don't know if the stone was there before I started taking Topomax?
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-12-2010, 09:29 PM
Super Moderator / Thank You Queen
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 7,546
Thanks: 206
Thanked 1,899 Times in 1,627 Posts
You might want to check the link out. It's an article entitled "Topamax Can Increase Occurrence of Kidney Stones"

http://www.healthcentral.com/migrain...x-45003-5.html
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-12-2010, 11:01 PM
New Here
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanks for the link.

IN the case study they did it was not very extensive and not long term.
Unfortunately we have no real patients who have been on it for a long time that can verify these kind of problems. If the Topomax can prevent the seizures and the stones are every once in a while(almost 2 years now) then I would have to choose the stones over the seizures. (if the topomax is really causing the stones?) I am going to have my kidneys scanned again just to make certain.
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-13-2010, 04:48 AM
Endless's Avatar
Super Moderator / Even Keel
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: U.S.
Posts: 4,287
Thanks: 753
Thanked 1,048 Times in 853 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Endless
Robin posted the link to this site awhile back:
http://www.askapatient.com/
Once you get the search results, use the "find on this page" utility to find any info on "kidney" (Look under edit in the toolbar, then click on "find on this page")

This site has PATIENTS list their side effects with different drugs - not the drug companies or the FDA.
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-13-2010, 09:25 AM
Super Moderator / Thank You Queen
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 7,546
Thanks: 206
Thanked 1,899 Times in 1,627 Posts
If you decide to go back on the Topomax, you might want to ask your doctor about taking a magnesium citrate supplement (which can help prevent kidney stones).
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-13-2010, 09:59 AM
Cint's Avatar
CWE Supporter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 1,802
Thanks: 162
Thanked 488 Times in 366 Posts
I've been on Topomax for 10 years now and have not experienced any kidney stones (yet), although it is stated as a side effect in the handout from the pharmacist.

From http://www.drugs.com/topamax.html

Quote :
Drink plenty of liquids while you are taking Topamax. This will lower your risk of having kidney stones or an electrolyte imbalance. Call your doctor if you have ongoing vomiting or diarrhea. You can easily become dehydrated while taking this medication.
__________________
"The Golden Rule is that there are no golden rules."
~George Bernard Shaw
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-14-2010, 06:28 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chichester N.Y.
Posts: 212
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
I had kidney stones from topamax, changed to keppra. Kidney stones that turned to a very large bladder stone that had to be removed. That was a nightmare, drink as much water as you can.
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-17-2010, 07:20 PM
Endless's Avatar
Super Moderator / Even Keel
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: U.S.
Posts: 4,287
Thanks: 753
Thanked 1,048 Times in 853 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Endless
Oh, yeah. I forgot about the thirst. Thanks, mike. I'm sure it's related to the kidney somehow. I was sooooo thirsty, I drank about 5x my normal intake. And peed a lot. I didn't get stones like Mike, though.
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-18-2010, 06:51 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chichester N.Y.
Posts: 212
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
Its so important to drink water! Thrist is the last indicator that your body is dehydrated. I wonder how dehydration effects epilepsy? I know that after I seize I have a powerfull thrist! The first thing I want is a drink.
Add Post to del.icio.usNetscape this post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
poorly controlled TLE trying topomax ? vapour The Kitchen 3 07-24-2010 10:22 AM
New with some questions about Topomax dlewis1982 The Foyer 12 08-13-2009 06:49 PM
Topomax Birth Defects epileric The Library 0 07-22-2008 12:48 PM
Giving baby topomax and phenobarb jdcharles The Kitchen 5 12-08-2006 02:21 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2005 © Measuring Up. ALL rights reserved.