Seizures due to Ammonia

[haird18]

Because I have always had strange reactions around chemical like ammonia chlorine and other strong chemicals! I always felt sick after using them all the time for awhile.
David

[RobinN]

Yes I do too David,
but this is about a reaction in your body that creates too much ammonia, and your liver isn't healthy enough to process it. So it is returned into the blood. I think this is why people smell ammonia on their skin, and in their blood, an from their urine..

[haird18]

I have seriousreactions causing seizures when around ammonia and other very strong chemicals this just confirms what was happening to me at the that we didn't know about then!
David

[RobinN]

I still think we are expressing two different situations. One is breathing in the aroma of the chemical, which obviously is not a good thing to do. The other is a chemical reaction in your gut and blood, which then is absorbed / travels to the brain.

One is external, the other is internal.

Both ending in the same way, but one can be avoided the other has to be considered since it is a nutritional change.

[haird18]

Robin,

Talking to my mom caesin and ammonia was serious as I was exposed to so many toxins as a baby by my birth mom and then at one point I was so ill with toxins like ammonia ingestion and other poisons because of neglect from when I was a baby my birth parents experimented with different things without the care of their children! And now casein is a new problem that deal with because I am researching new chemicals causing adults with brain damage too causing the same problems so somehow I had internal exposure too according to my new doctors who are testing me for so many diseases of the colon hy pylori and ulcers due duodenal ulcers too ny body is very sensitive to what ever it takes in at all!
David

[haird18]

See the ammonia that was created in my body caused such a greater threat that when I was in the hospital this last time the doctors had such a hard time pin pointing it until they continued with multitude of tests and noticed reaction I was having! The seizures I was having were very unusual something the nuerologist hadn't seen before until blood work came on me that there was so many abnormals that he told me it was due to some kind of internal ammonia or caesin problem working in my belly too! Which is something my primary doctor and nuerologist are working on together! Robin I went to that site and read the report in detail so I know what you mean but for the last year I have had severe stomach problems and unusal blood work so we will find out next week!
Thank You
David

[RobinN]

I am really sorry that you are having to deal with this David. I do hope that they are going to be able to figure it out. I am really excited that you get to go to Dallas and that you found a specialist that is able to help you to figure out what is going on.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Good luck on the flight... on Tues... right?

[RobinN]

Stacy also used to have a unique "aroma" around the time of a seizure. I could never quite pin down what the smell was until one day when she split her scalp. Her "aroma" was the same as the smell of her blood.

I used to be able to tell within a day that she was in danger of having a tonic clonic seizure when I noticed that "aroma" being strong.

It's been a few months though, since that was true.

You might do a search of: ammonia / adrenals / hormones

I think we might be on to something.
Adrenals regulate the hormones,
ammonia affects the adrenals,
liver needs to be healthy for ammonia to be within range.
Diet keeps the liver healthy.
Adrenals need support if there are too many toxins, or if under extreme stress.
First morning urine is the highest in ammonia levels.

[Meetz1064]

what you get when you Google all 3 of those words......so sorry, I couldn't help myself........

http://www.google.com/search?q=ammon...e7&rlz=1I7GGLJ

[RobinN]

yes......
and then you read the individual sites for "clues"

Here is one:

I realize this is not a scientific paper, but one that is interesting.

The following ties together much of what I have written on the possible physiology of kundalini so far and is the most speculative piece in this book. I am pretty sure that convulsive/seizure/kindling can actually produce ammonia, as well as be caused by ammonia. If so this could be one of the main causes of people running into extended periods of difficulty with kundalini. The good news is that the problem is relatively easily addressed once we know the mechanism. I would like to point out that I am not saying that kundalini is epileptic seizures or is caused by ammonia. But that until we get research done specifically for kundalini, I am using the knowledge of various phenomena like epilepsy to arrive at a deeper understanding of what might be happening.

http://biologyofkundalini.com/articl...oniaHypothesis

I have got to run right now, but I will be back to read more

[googly389]

So is Milk Thistle safe to take with say...Depakote (valproic acid)? Since the meds get processed in the liver wouldn't the thistle lower the levels by attempting to clean the liver of the meds? I really want to try this herb since I feel run down and tired all the time most likely from meds.

[RobinN]

I am not a chemist, so I can't tell you the intereaction of one on another. There is a good site I will find for you to check it there is a known one.
http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html
This is the problem that I see with daily medication. If you try to heal, it will certainly disrupt any possible balance your body has found while taking medication. If there were home tests this would be a lot easier. You could adjust as needed. With many anti-epileptic drugs causing liver issues, it seems logical to me that the liver pathways need to be clearer to function properly. The liver is so important to the WHOLE body that I think that would be a priority. Yet it might be an inconvenience to many, as it would again disrupt the balance.

Comes down to personal choice I guess. Health vs stablilzation

[googly389]

So what you're saying is that it would be best to get off the meds (slowly of course) first before attempting a detox? Not sure I follow.

[RobinN]

I am not saying that at all.
I am saying if you are making the choice to heal your body in any way that you must be in tune to your own "system" and do it carefully, with or without the help of your doctor.
I have done this for Rebecca without the monitoring of tests and wasted appointments. I can see by her bodily functions, and skin outbreaks, etc if she is healing or regressing.

So much of it depends on her nutritional choices.

I have been trying out a product called Liver Health recently. It is in capsule form, and there are no noticable side effects for her. It has Milk Thistle Seed, Tumeric rhizome, MSM, Ch. Skullcap root, Schizandra berry, and Licorice root. But then again she is not on ANY pharmaceuticals.

You might ask your pharmacist if there are any known intereactions between it and what you take.
I was lucky enough to already have weaned her off of any meds, prior to cleaning up the system.

[googly389]

Thanks Robin You're like my mother sometimes on this forum haha! But I suppose I could just give Abbott labs (depakote maker) a call and ask them. Even though I have reduced my dose a little over a month ago, I still feel like I'm in this tired daze most of the time. Could be my early morning job (4:30 AM) but more than likely I think my liver is overwhelmed with meds.

[RobinN]

Are you still feeling tired? It has been another month since you reduced your dose. I agree though that your early morning might be part of the problem, however think of farmers that get up at that time every day. If you get adequate rest you should not be in a daze most of the time.

If you think your liver is overwhelmed by meds you are most likely correct in that assumption.

[googly389]

Very true. However, I think that even if I'm not toxic then I could still be tired. I try my best but I am not able to always get in the bed by 8:00 pm every night and I found that when I have like an extended time off (vactation) then I wake up refreshed and ready to go.

I recently started smoking marijuana on the weekends only and have found it helps me sleep very soundly. So now I am waking up and feeling calm and focused.

Oh, and a little recent update Robin: I'm over three months into the GF diet (with minor slips) and have noticed probably an 85% reduction in those major auras I use to get in frequency and intensity. Marijuana could also be helping too. I also had an MRI for the first time recently with and without contrast and the doc said he didn't see anything at all abnormal. No lesions, scars or any visible physical cause for the seizures I use to have.

[RobinN]

Wonderful news.
I would have to take a guess and say the nutrition is playing the larger role in your reduction. Most likely will help in the long run with your overall health.

[googly389]

yea, but I was shocked and a little ecstatic to hear my scan was normal Most people with Temporal Lobe seizures have some sort of focus point. Which it seems like I would! I dunno, maybe it missed it, but I'm just going to take it as a grain of sand right now and take my time coming off the meds.