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Conclusion - Part II Total management of temporal lobe epilepsy by a psychiatrist is also not without problems. Although temporal lobe epileptic patients are particularly intriguing to psychiatrists because of the nature of the symptoms, these "psychic" seizures can generalize at any time into psychomotor status or grand mal attacks. What's more, neither the timing nor the seriousness of grand mal episodes can be predicted; the initial generalized seizure sometimes occurs many years after the first manifestations of the illness and may culminate in status epilepticus and death. For these reasons, a physician should undertake the treatment of temporal lobe epilepsy patients only if he or she has sufficient training and experience in the overall management of epilepsy. When this isn't the case, close collaboration between psychiatrist and neurologist offers the best venue for successful management of this fascinating "bridge" between neurology and psychiatry. Dr. Restak is a clinical professor of neurology at George Washington University and associate clinical professor of neurology at Georgetown University Medical Center. References 1. Bancaud J, Brunet-Bourgin F, Chauvel P, Halgren E. Anatomical origin of déjà vu and vivid "memories" in human temporal lobe epilepsy. Brain. 1994(Feb);117(Pt 1):71-90. 2. Devinsky O, Hafler DA, Victor J. Embarrassment as the aura of a complex partial seizure. Neurology. 1982; 32(11):1284-1285. 3. Ellison JM. Alterations of sexual behavior in temporal lobe epilepsy. Psychosomatics. 1982;23(5):499-500, 505-509. 4. Hecker A, Andermann F, Rodin EA. Spitting automatism in temporal lobe seizures. Epilepsia. 1972;13(6):767-772. 5. Jackson JH. Brain. 1898;21:580-590. 6. Kotagal P, Luders HO, Williams G, et al. Psychomotor seizures of temporal lobe onset: analysis of symptom clusters and sequences. Epilepsy Res. 1995;20(1):49-67. 7. Markand ON, Wheeler GL, Pollack SL. Complex partial status epilepticus (psychomotor status). Neurology. 1978;28(2):189-196. 8. Meiners LC, van Gils A, Jansen GH, et al. Temporal lobe epilepsy: the various MR appearances of histologically proven mesial temporal sclerosis. Am J Neuroradiol. 1994(Sept);15(8 ):1547-1555. 9. Mullan S, Penfield W. Illusions of comparative interpretation and emotion. Archives of Neurology and Psychiatry. 1959;80:269-284. 10. Pritchard PB III, Lombroso CT, McIntyre M. Psychological complications of temporal lobe epilepsy. Neurology 1980;30(3):227-232. 11. Remillard grand mal, Andermann F, Gloor P, et al. Water-drinking as ictal behavior in complex partial seizures. Neurology. 1981;31(2):117-124. 12. Remillard grand mal, Andermann F, Testa GF, et al. Sexual ictal manifestations predominate in women with temporal lobe epilepsy: a finding suggesting sexual dimorphism in the human brain. Neurology. 1983;33(3):323-30. 13. Schenk L, Bear D. Multiple personality and related dissociative phenomena in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy. Am J Psychiatry. 1981;138(10):1311-1316. 14. Signer SF, Benson DF. Three cases of anorexia nervosa associated with temporal lobe epilepsy. Am J Psychiatry. 1990;147(2):235-238. 15. Slater E, Beard AW, Glithero E. The schizophrenia-like psychoses of epilepsy. Br J Psychiatry. 1963;109:95-150. 16. Spencer SS. The relative contributions of MRI, SPECT and PET imaging in epilepsy. Epilepsia. 1994;35 (Suppl 6):S72-89. 17. Spencer SS, Spencer DD, Williamson PD, Mattson RH. Sexual automatisms in complex partial seizures. Neurology. 1983;33(5):527-33. 18. Stoudemire A, Nelson A, Houpt JL. Interictal schizophrenia-like psychoses in temporal lobe epilepsy. Psychosomatics. 1983;24(4):331-333;337-339. 19. Umbricht D, Degreef G, Barr WB, et al. Postictal and chronic psychoses in patients with temporal lobe epilepsy. Am J Psychiatry. 1995;152(2):224-231. Complex Partial Seizures Present Diagnostic Challenge ============================= Moderator's Notes: The entire article was posted in the event if this article ceased to exist on the web. Last edited by brain; 11-09-2007 at 09:43 PM. Reason: added moderator's notes |
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| This is a very interesting article. I can relate to all of the testing I did to locate the focal point of the seizures prior to surgery. When I pressed the button to tell them when they were present and nothing would register led them to believe it was all in my mind and the diagnoses would be anxiety. From my experience with cancer, if they biopsy one location and no cancer is present, it doesn’t mean that it’s not present, they just didn’t get the correct location. Does it work the same with an EEG? Can they possibly get each and every brain wave captured on an EEG? I recall that the auras varied from a weird taste in the mouth to fear to an electric feeling of shock that would start in the stomach and I would feel it go the arms and legs. I had the migraines as well. They are likely to put you on things like Ativan and that never truly helped, all it did was knock you out. It’s an old article, did you ever find anything else on this? |
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| I am very intrigued! -yet a little confused...I cant comprehend words today...(I think its the meds.) I do want to talk about this...Because Doctors have had a lot of trouble diagnosing me. My new doctor does think the seizures are temporal lobe. But a lot have looked like they would have been frontal lobe too..and then again I have abnormal spikes in the parital and occipital lobes yet they are not abnormal? Well...thats what one doctor told me...I dont know...Its not a good day...I'll come back and re-read this..because I am really, really, REALLY interested in this. I just am a little too "high" to think right now... ![]() I'm sorry... |
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| I just found a website of Dr. Restak's called the Dana Foundation. There is a lot of info here: Intro: http://www.dana.org/news/author.aspx?id=842 Epilepsy in general: http://www.dana.org/resources/brainw...l.aspx?id=5112 Complex Partial: http://www.dana.org/Search.aspx?q=complex%20partial |
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| I'm still having a hard time comprehending words...(not to mention I have ADD ) Is a short synopiss poissible? |
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| There is overlap in the diagnosis of temporal lobe epilepsy and psychiatric disorders and many neuros and psych doctors are not sufficiently equipped to properly diagnose or address both aspects.
__________________ Check out this chart of alternative epilepsy treatments and this page on EEG Neurofeedback. Would you like to help support this forum? We recently had a bunch of new neurofeedback practitioners agree to offer CWE members discounts for service. See post #12 for the list of all participating practitioners. |
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| Actually there's a problematic issue with temporal lobe epilepsy and FLE (Frontal Lobe Epilepsy) AND Psychiatric Disorders ~ which complicates everything and makes it all a complex case. While true some people with Epilepsy can have psychiatric or psychological problem(s), but there's quite a few Neuros and Epis that are under the impression that all people who have E have a psychiatric and/or psychological problem(s) - which isn't the case. For example: take a complex partial episode, which may include some bizarre behavior, psychosis, or abnormal behavior - to name a few, which lasts but a brief moment; and they slam the person with Epilepsy as psychiatric/psychological problem. A genuine Psychiatric / Psychological problem person would have this problem all the time, not for a brief spell. Big difference. Hope this post defines it more clearly. It was a Neurologist that helped me to understand this more clearly and that Neurologist realizes and understands it's a severe stigma in Epilepsy. Then there are patients who have Epilepsy and because of F L E (not T L E) that doesn't manifest always on EEG; the Neurologist / Epileptologist often gives the misdiagnostic(s) of the person to have P N E S or N E S or Pseudo-seizures and tosses them off to the Psychiatric Care when in fact they have Epilepsy and not a Psychiatric or Psychological problem. In the light of P N E S/N E S (as well as the old terminology - Pseudoseizures) - it falls into 2 categories: 1) Psychogenic - caused by trauma experienced in childhood including sexual abuse, physical abuse, and emotional abuse, stress, to name a few. 2) Physiologic- caused by physical problems such as cardiac arrhythmias and hypoglycemia, diabetics, and other health related issues to name a few. I hope this detailed and more defined clarity assists you further in more perspective. Last edited by brain; 05-24-2008 at 01:02 AM. Reason: spaced out the abbreviations |
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| ok yes I understand! That is really interesting!!! The brain is so complex. I don't think anyone will ever be able to figure out 100% how it works... |
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| Matt I don't think this information was directed at any one person but just supplied as information. There is an entire forum right now discussing Muchusens by Internet but again not as a blame issue just as information. I feel your frustration that even within the medical community when they can't identify the cause they just brush it off as either faked or "stress" or "all in your head"(Sorry I don't remeber who's line this is but its a good one!) As you know I spent years and went through many doctors before someone took the time to give me some answers. |
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| the info in the first two posts is very helpful these could describe precisely what I've been experiencing I have never heard of these correlations before I've never had any in-depth professional explanation of epilepsy either I have had a very bad day so far this information has been extremely helpful I feel so lost today - I could feel it coming on last night and today has been laden with the bad blanket my friend said I might have had PTSD from a year ago - I then found this information I will try to keep this in mind. I sense the feelings today will be recurrent. I'm guessing partial/absence seizures. the more I find about different symptoms the more I tend to believe mine is temporal lobe epilepsy I've never had an EEG show anything |
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