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Old 07-28-2007, 04:25 PM
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I would like to hear about some of your experiences with a medication(s) that used to work for you and then all of a sudden did not. I have not talked to any neurologist who has been able to explain this to me. One day you wake up and you realize your meds have stopped working for you. Or maybe one day you develop very strange, intolerable side effects that you have never experienced and have to stop the meds.

I know our bodies change but it is still a very strange phenomenon. (simple partial?)

Has anyone experienced this?
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:33 PM
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It has happened to me. My body was exhusted from mysoline, the Drs said I was on it too long,should had have a change sooner than I did. They did the change it was too fast, I ended up in absence status, and than my body didn't accept any of my old meds, zarontion , or tegretol . I tried every med available in Canada (was living there at the time) It began a search for control of my szs , I was so desperate I returned to NYC & went into the felbemate expirment . Couldn't take the full dose of that either,but I did improve. Than went off that once it became legal and the deaths. Just went from one med to the next ,nothing worked . Finally went back on mysoline and had control ?????
Not for long a few months ,than my body was tired needed an add on.
Ended up getting the vns inplant , that worked great for me, but the dr wanted me off my meds , I was his prize patient. Ended up off the meds and having a violent grand mal in the bathroom. Broke the wires and lost my trust in the Dr. ended up on
keppra, couldn't take full dose ,med made me crazy . Ended up with seizure once a month.
Until 2 yrs later tried the mysoline and tegretol again. This time I got this life threatening rash from tegretol. Retried lamictol ,got a rash. Desperate went to homeopathy Dr . been weaning off meds since. I never accepted the diagnosis of irratractable epilepsy. I had control for 24 yrs I was getting it back!!

I look back on the pictures of me in 80's early 90's with the knoweledge I have from the internet ,and I can see the signs that my body was tired of mysoline and I needed a change, very thin, hair super thin, couldn't sleep at nite,irratable. The signs were there,but there wasn't a internet or support like their is today.

Those Drs in Canada like to say their are no side effects. Like give me a break !!!!
I know better !!!!!!! I have had epilepsy since I am 11 yrs old I am now 51 yrs old.
When they were caring for me I was in my 20's ,30's, 40's . Their saying my life experience amounts to nothing.

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Old 07-29-2007, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Blessed View Post:
I would like to hear about some of your experiences with a medication(s) that used to work for you and then all of a sudden did not. I have not talked to any neuro who has been able to explain this to me. One day you wake up and you realize your meds have stopped working for you. Or maybe one day you develop very strange, intolerable side effects that you have never experienced and have to stop the meds.

I know our bodies change but it is still a very strange phenomenon. (simple partial?)

Has anyone experienced this?
Affirmative:

Phenobarbital & Keppra gave me the most strangest
side effects of all the anti-epileptic medications
out there.

PHENOBARBITAL: at first for a long time - had no effect
on me whatsoever, but for some reason, after being
pregnant and not having been on it for awhile, then
being put back on it again; it made me the most
nastiest person on earth (worst than 10 women with
PMS x 100), mean, into a state of psychosis, and
I would chew anyone's head off - and that was just
on a LOW DOSAGE! So the neurologist decided to RAISE
the dosage (big mistake), and I ended up hurling
objects across the room, and fighting people, and
it was triggering seizures, and I was going berserk!

KEPPRA: (last year) the epileptologist titrated me on this very
slowly, so slow that it would have put you to sleep.
While some of y'all would have laughed at how I was
started on it and would have stated "gimme a break"
but things went well, and once at 1500 mg (750 mg
x 2), it was perfect. But the epileptologist didn't want to stop
there, he wanted to continue to raise it. And by the
time I was at 2000 mg - I was experiencing all kinds
of weird things, more auras, and the stupid tiny blue
light that would flash in a nano-second with numbness
in my hands and feet after an hour of taking it (1000
mg x 2) and I would feel my cardiac system going
absolutely haywire, into S-Tach, then drop. Then he
raised it up to 3000 mg (1500 mg x 2) and it put me
into state of pure psychosis. I was completely whacked
out. I had no desires to be in competition with Whacko
Jacko (Michael Jackson), and I didn't know if I was
coming or going, and I was hallucinating and seeing
things that weren't there. And I felt myself like I was
departing in all different directions. And the most odd
ball thing was - I SAW SHOOTING STARS!
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING across my eyes!
It startled me. I thought "Oh my gosh, I've lost my
mind!" And it did it again. And it was freaking me out.
And it did it again. All different directions. And I told
myself, if it does it one more time, I'm emailing my epileptologist
to have me committed. And :::: whoosh :::: another
one went by - and I said, "Alright, that's it!" I hit sent
on the email! But I never experienced any more after
that. I waited, and waited - while it was cool, but in
broad daylight? I mean shooting stars or falling stars
is something you see outside at night time in the sky
not inside of your eyes. Night-time was no better.
For some weird reason in the middle of my sleep, it
would wake me up, and I would be extremely ANGRY!
WHY? I have absolutely no idea. 3-4 AM after being
in bed at 10-10:30 PM. Then I would be in tears. At
one point, my tenant made a comment that I once
rose up like a corpse, like a zombie, and then collapsed
and was limp, and he had to reposition me.

My epileptologist at that time had to take me off of Keppra
immediately.

Those are the only two medications I had very, very
strange and odd effects.
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Old 07-29-2007, 08:43 AM
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If you do experience side effects from any anti-epileptic drugs, you can report them to the FDA. The more people who do this will increase the likelyhood that the side effects will be included in warnings for the drugs (if enough people report the same problem).
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:40 PM
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Topamax caused severe eye pain for me. I had reported it to the company as well. They responded back that they had sent warnings out to over 500,000 neurologists but yet my neurologist denied any knowlege. This side effect is in their warnings as well as causing blindness and glaucoma. I only came across the warning by accident and put 2+2 together. That eye pain was so bad I went to the eye doc who could find nothing wrong. When the medication was stoped the pain abated.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:29 PM
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Wow Donna, I was doubled over from topamax .
Bernard I never thought of contacting the FDA about the mysoline collecting in my joints,
it only happens to 5% of the pple who take it.
Brain ,I could never get past 1000mgs of keppra I would get parnoid and cry
zarontion stopped working for me in 1992 when I tried to go back on it and I went toxic,
my gums bled , it was horrible I needed a gum operation.
It was like the Drs weren't listening they kept thinking give me more meds,that will stablize her,instead it made me sickier and thinner . Down to 90lbs
2004-2005 tried tegretol and mysoline again and got life threatening rash to tegretol

PILLS CONTROL THE SZS BUT KILL THE BODY

Thats another discussion, I got epilepsy when I was 11 yrs old and I was taught to take my meds and my szs would be controled. No one ever discussed long term use of these meds and the damages ?

Left with no choice but to try homeopathy

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Old 07-29-2007, 03:02 PM
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Thank you everyone. I am sorry you have been through so much. It makes me sad to read your posts

Our bodies are truly amazing machines. When we begin to have strange reactions I think it is our body's way of telling us "we don't want that stuff anymore." I still find it amazing that a medication can quit working seemingly overnight after being on it for years. (Thanks for that link Bernard.)

I have always heard we should listen to our bodies. It seems to know what it needs when the docs. don't.
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Blessed View Post:
Thank you everyone. I am sorry you have been through so much. It makes me sad to read your posts

I have always heard we should listen to our bodies. It seems to know what it needs when the docs. don't.
I think Bernard made a comment on your last line
somewhere over the rainbow in some forum to
someone - I might be wrong ...

BUT I ASSURE YOU - There are Doctors WHO DO
LISTEN!

I had 2 Neurologists who listened to me, and I have
a PCP and a Cardiologist who listens to me.

I also have dear close friends who are Medical
Doctors, Surgeons, Nurses and also Medical Retirees
who listens - and not to mention Medical Professors
as well.

They listen, and they even give me advisories.
I've been there for them, and they've been there for
me.
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Old 07-29-2007, 08:48 PM
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Wow you sure are lucky ,haven't had any luck with drs in years .


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I think Bernard made a comment on your last line
somewhere over the rainbow in some forum to
someone - I might be wrong ...
Nope.
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As far as I go, I've had Epilepsy since I was 12 years old. My mother had it and her grandmother, all the way back to Martha Custis Washington wife of George (so they tell me). I started with petite mal seizures and never had grand mal until I got pregnant. After the babies, I started having the sets, as my horemones raged. Just after I met Bernie, I went seizure free for 4 years with no medications.

After the first set of grand mal seizures, my doctor put me on all kinds of different medicatiions, some of which I've forgotten, but I've pretty much tried everything as far as pills go. The next March, 06, I was in my Graduate level Environmental CHemistry class. I had to explain to the professor I couldn't even write without looking like someone with severe Parkinsonism. My short term memory was no better than a goldfish (3 seconds ) I spoke with the head of the department, who also happens to actually have been a professor of mine for several of my undergrad classes and knew what I am capeable of. I explained the situation and in the middle of the conversation I couldn't complete a sentence. I asked for a pencil and proved it. I also talked to the Chem. professor who is from China and told me it would not be fair to treat me differently than the other students. Keep in mind, my collegues have backgrounds in partial differential equations, chemical imbalances for bombs, and the like. I was only asking to take an open book final exam. We had all these complicated mathmatical equations, and I couldn't even remember what 10 to the 3rd power was, from algebra. It ended up that I studied REALLY hard and my fellow students really helped me relearn all the math again(except the one chick from TAMU that consistently rolled her eyes at me and told everyone I was faking). Dr. Chan (professor) let me do an extra chapter critique of the book he is writing to help with my grade. I somehow ended up with a B, but I'm not sure I deserved it. I had a set of seizures while I was enrolled in the class at some point, and the neurologist just said, "...up her Dilantin levels!" That made things worse! I was then on 400mg Dilantin and some other medication that made me really messed up. Bernie was very patient and swore up and down I should not finish my degree. (I only had my thesis after the Chemistry class, then I would be done.) He said it wasn't worth it. I'm here to tell you, it was worth it. I'm glad I'm done and I'm glad I did it. I'm proud of myself.

honestly though, the meds help, but the hormones keep me sane.

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