Flu Shots

[RobinN]

Here are some more of the additives in your vaccines:

When molecules of squalene enter the body through an injection, even at concentrations as small as 10 to 20 parts per billion, it can lead to self-destructive immune responses, such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus.(3)

More than two dozen peer-reviewed scientific papers from ten different laboratories throughout the U.S., Europe, Asia, and Australia have been published documenting the development of autoimmune disease in animals subjected to squalene-based adjuvants.(4) A convincing proposal for why this occurs includes the concept of “molecular mimicry” in which an antibody created against the squalene in MF59 can cross react with the body’s squalene on the surface of human cells. The destruction of the body’s own squalene can lead to debilitating autoimmune and central nervous system diseases.

The squalene in MF59 is not the only cause for concern. One of its components, Tween80 (polysorbate 80) is considered by vaccine manufacturers to be “inert” but is far from it. A study published in December, 2005 discovered that Tween80 can cause anaphylaxis, a sometimes fatal reaction characterized by a sharp drop in blood pressure, hives, and breathing difficulties. Researchers concluded that the severe reaction was not a typical allergic response characterized by the combination of IgE antibodies and the release of histamines; it was caused by a serious disruption that had occurred within the immune system

http://ezinearticles.com/?Flu-Shots-...ives&id=543262

Formaldehyde is present in some of the vaccines on the childhood immunization schedule, including the flu shot, polio vaccine and DTaP vaccine, because it works to eliminate the harmful effects of these bacterial toxins and makes the viruses unable to replicate or reproduce themselves. The very small amount of formaldehyde that is left over in the vaccines that are given to kids is less than the amount naturally found in children and much less than that amount safely given to animals in research studies.

Some vaccines do contain the additive 2-phenoxyethanol, which is an organic chemical compound, but it is not the same as antifreeze (ethylene glycol and propylene glycol). 2-Phenoxyethanol is also a glycol ether and doesn't sound much better than antifreeze, so why is it in vaccines? It is a preservative that can help prevent bacterial and fungal contamination of the vaccine

[Cinnabar]

Thimerisol is a preservative. It is MERCURY. Mercury is a neurotoxin

That's all I have to say. Everyone has so many different opionions about this.... I'm changing my beat. Always Laurie

[Molly97]

I agree with Cinnabar; YIKES!!!!!

Thank you Robin for all the good information. I need to print it off and give it to my doctor. Big proponent of flu shots. I had heard some negative stuff about it last year and asked him his take on the information. He essentially said it was hogwash. Normally he's a very open-minded doc. We went ahead and took the shots(Hubby is diabetic) and the rest is what I posted earlier.

[Cinnabar]

I agree with Cinnabar; YIKES!!!!!

Thank you Robin for all the good information. I need to print it off and give it to my doctor. Big proponent of flu shots. I had heard some negative stuff about it last year and asked him his take on the information. He essentially said it was hogwash. Normally he's a very open-minded doc. We went ahead and took the shots(Hubby is diabetic) and the rest is what I posted earlier.

This past season as I was ready to leave a lenghthly visit with my doctor, and almost out the door, he called out to me in a near panic "You really need a flu shot". My first, and actually only instinct, was he wanted to charge up even more to my insurance co.

Something similar happened to me when I was laying on the gurny, crying, in the hospital after having had a very violent siezure. Finally, ready to leave, the hospital doctor, again as if in after thought, said anxiously "You really need a tetenant shot." I declined because I thought it was nothing but hogwash. Again more to charge up, even after all the tests I went though.

Maybe, we could also address doctor's motivations, imploring us to get these "shots". Alway Laurie

[shawn33]

I have been ordered by my neurologist to keep getting them for the next 2 years starting in 1-1-07. That's because of the RNS research study and to do all i can to fight the flu so i can ALWAYS go to the scheduled visits to have the RNS checked out and reprogramed as needed for the FDA.

[shawn33]

I'm sorry to hear what happened to your loved ones. Thanks for the info, and I will deffinately keep that one in mind.

[RobinN]

http://drbenkim.com/flu-shot-ingredients-dangers.htm

One in a million people who get the flu shot develops a neurological disease called Guillain-Barré Syndrome.

Guillain-Barré syndrome tends to develop without notice, and is marked by extreme muscle weakness and other symptoms related to nerve dysfunction. I once provided ongoing chiropractic treatments to a professional athlete who had to retire early because he developed Guillain-Barré Syndrome, so I know firsthand how debilitating this condition can be.

And let's not miss an obvious point: if one in a million people who get the flu shot can develop a devastating neurological condition, how many others who get the flu shot suffer from a number of uncomfortable symptoms that are never properly or accurately diagnosed? It's just not realistic to think that the ingredients in a flu shot can cause severe neurological damage in a small percentage of the population while leaving everyone else completely uninjured.

[wonderdogs]

I have to get the flu shot cause of where I work. It's a requirement.

I have always gotten one for this reason also. My new job isn't going to require one but I think I will anyway just since it's what I have always done.

[RobinN]

Medical doctors use to think bloodletting was a good idea too, at one time.

[paradise survivor]

Oh sure, now I find this thread...I had my first flu shot ever last Saturday. Here in the islands all the insurance companies get together and sponsor free shots to anyone period. You want one you can get one. Fortunately I walked away unscathed except a little tenderness in the arm. i waill admit I was a little nervous since I don't do particularly well with meds...maybe its all the xrays, cat scans, mri's, and pet scans I have had this year, maybe the radioactivity counteracts the mercury stuff...oh well, I 'm still standin (sorry to hear about the other folks) I have had the flu and it is no fun, maybe this will work.

[RobinN]

watch it over time... I know of people that have developed symptoms later
I would personally do all I could to keep my immune defenses healthy

[jgbmartin]

Because of the problems I had with serious infections from my arm injury, I MUST have a flu shot because my immune system is very very weak.

[alivenwell]

One of the biggest issues I have with the flu is my inability to retain oral medication in my system. It may cause a seizure, my loss of driving, humiliation in front of others having a seizure, and possible physical injury.

I really wish I could measure the amount of medication in my system similar to how diabetics measure their sugar levels. If I could, I would inject an anti-epilepsy medication into my system or find a way to apply it non-orally. I'd have to have the ideal medication level numbers during a time when I have no flu. This avoids the mercury issue or bad experiences with the flu shots.

We'd need one of those Little blood monitors for each medication we take to find our ideal levels. Anybody know of such an invention?

If there is a methodology other than guessing how we feel, then I'd avoid a flu shot. Right now, I'm still getting the flu shot. I know if somebody has a cold, the flu shot should not be administered.

[RobinN]

Has anyone ever considered making up lower doses of there meds and medicating over the day, rather than only 2-3 times a day?

Of course this would be discussed with your doctor, but I would think keeping it even over the 24 hr period would be the best for keeping the levels even.

[alivenwell]

My general rule is to not eat during the flu. Obviously some sports drinks are better choices for electrolytes over hot tea which can dehydrate anybody especially with a fever. I pop my pills if my stomach isn't upset. It's better than nothing.

If I eat anything at all, it's probably very, very bland.

[RobinN]

WHAT IS THIMEROSAL?

In March of 2001, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) issued a statement warning pregnant women and young children not to eat fish containing high levels of mercury because it causes neurological problems in children. Yet, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now recommends that these same women and young children (ages 6 to 59 months) should get flu shots. Despite what you may have heard, flu shots still contain mercury in the form of the preservative thimerosal. In fact, some flu shots
contain more mercury than the EPA recommended safe level for seafood.
SafeMinds is deeply concerned that the risks of mercury-containing flu shots outweigh the benefits for pregnant women, infants and children. Our belief is based on a large-scale scientific study in approximately 50,000 pregnant
women and their infants over five flu seasons that found no difference in the risk for developing flu illness among those who received the flu vaccine
during pregnancy and those who did not receive the vaccine. Reviews in the medical journal The Lancet found a lack of health benefit of influenza
vaccine for children under 2 and significantly increased rates of adverse events in children given the influenza vaccine. In addition, a recent NIH-funded study showed that the type of mercury found in flu shots crosses into the brain of infant primates and results in appreciable levels of mercury being trapped in the brain. Mercury is highly toxic to brain tissue
and can interrupt critical stages of brain development.

The Coalition for SafeMinds (Sensible Action for Ending Mercury-Induced Neurological Disorders) is a private nonprofit organization founded to investigate and raise awareness of the risks to infants and children of exposure to mercury from medical products, including thimerosal in vaccines.

Since its inception in 2000, SafeMinds has sponsored almost one million dollars in research related specifically to mercury and adverse neurological outcomes, including autism. This level of financial commitment establishes SafeMinds as the largest private non-profit organization funding mercury and autism related research. For more information please visit www.safeminds.org.

[alivenwell]

I just learned that there are some manufacturers responding to this exact issue. If you check out http://www.afluria.com/ it will tell you the SINGLE dose in a glass vial is Thimerosal free.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5646a5.htm

On September 28, 2007, CSL Biotherapies, Inc., (King of Prussia, Pennsylvania) received approval from the Food and Drug Administration for use of Afluria®, a trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) administered intramuscularly in persons aged >18 years (1). Afluria can be used for any adult influenza vaccine indication (2).

The addition of Afluria brings to six (five TIVs and one live, attenuated influenza vaccine) the number of seasonal influenza vaccines licensed for the U.S. market. CDC estimates that manufacturers of the six vaccines will supply a record 132 million doses of influenza vaccine for the 2007--08 influenza season.

Afluria is available in a 0.5 mL preservative-free, single-dose, prefilled syringe and in a 5 mL multidose vial containing 10 doses. Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative to the multidose vial; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5 µg of mercury. Additional information is available from the manufacturer's package insert (3) and CSL Biotherapies, Inc., telephone 888-435-8633.

http://www.afluria.com/

[majormana]

I refuse to get 1 cuz they make me vomit for like 3days afterwards

[shawn33]

sorry to hear that it does that to you.

[majormana]

sorry to hear that it does that to you.

thanks