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Old 08-23-2012, 07:02 AM
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Put it in a sentence?

Joking... will save it for a rainy day
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Long blocks of text are taxing on my brain's limited resources.

I'm a fan of whatever helps people control their seizures. I also don't believe a person should be told what they can and can't put in their body. Lastly, if booze is ok, then pot should be the same.

Have you ever run into a group of stoners looking to get into a fight?...

Neither have I.
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Originally Posted by Infinity Concept View Post:
Naaaaaah, god forbid someone'd actually have to read to understand the facts on the topic of the thread. lol

It's there, info for those who want any on the subject.
It's perfectly fine with me those who can't be bothered to.

I'm not the 1 shoveling poison down my gullet daily for relief though.

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Joining a forum to post a long, rambling wall of text and insulting those who don't pledge to sleep with it under their pillows.

If only there was a word for that...
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Being serious, can cigarette smoking be classed as medication if it is used to relieve stress or simply as a relaxant? We know the harm it can cause but what about the benefits? Smoking in moderation?
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Hmmm, good question Nick. I guess it really does depend on frequency.

If we're comparing cigs to mj, I would think the mj user would smoke less often. If I were smoking a pack of joints a day I would be off drooling in a corner somewhere, lol.

(we don't put tobacco in our joints like most folks do in the uk. Thank goodness!)
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I think an ashtray is a thing of the past here - laws prevent people from smoking in public areas so every building you pass has fag butts all over the ground (please note I'm not using the usa's terminology for 'fag' or 'butts')
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according to science daily

"The effect on the lungs of each joint was equivalent to smoking between 2.5 and five cigarettes in one go."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0731085550.htm

But who really knows. Its all a crap shoot.
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cool... I'll die more slowly
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cool... I'll die more slowly
Now thats the upbeat additude I like!

I guess thats one race you don't want to win.
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I don't know about that Nick because I'm a pretty big loser.
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I'm not positive, but i think tobacco is more addictive.

Also, when comparing the 2, I don't smoke the full joint because I quit after I get the desired effect. When i smoked cigs, I'd finish the thing because they are so damn expensive, even if I got my nicotine fix.
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yes, nicotine is considered the most addictive substance out there -- it's #1 on the list, followed by heroin, and then cocaine, alcohol, caffeine, and then at #6, marijuana.

And as far as seizures go, nicotine tends to be a more common trigger.
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Wow, nicotine beat out heroin. Who knew.... I want to hear the opinion of an ex-smoker/heroin addict.
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That's not very inclusive
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I've pretty much quit smoking MJ, I now prefer it in food or in a vaporizer, far more efficient and healthier alternative to smoke.
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I use a vaporizer and were I live u can smoke it in public places if u have a medical card I dont I do it just to get rid of all my side effects and if I can get to it in time before a seizure it stops it or its not as severe and idk why my body is like that never done anything elae dr said could kill me.
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Originally Posted by brain View Post:

EXACTLY!!!
And down here you can loose your house
too if they keep catching you use it!

So what option is a person with Epilepsy is
supposed to do if they (or a person with Cancer
or in Terminal Stages, etc) is supposed to do
when it's working for them???
Alcohol is bad... kills people and so on but its legal. Thus world is messed up.
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Originally Posted by Infinity Concept View Post:
Naaaaaah, god forbid someone'd actually have to read to understand the facts on the topic of the thread. lol

It's there, info for those who want any on the subject.
It's perfectly fine with me those who can't be bothered to.

I'm not the 1 shoveling poison down my gullet daily for relief though.

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Judgmental much? Yes, marijuana is the ideal treatment for epilepsy, but some people live in states that do not allow it's medical use. Such people might not want to break the law. I don't mind the breaking the law part but just cannot afford it. With my insurance my meds are free. I have no room for a grow either trust me, I would much rather use cannabis.
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Sorry to have been out of touch.

Here is a recent article of interest on this topic:


at:
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Quote :
Cannabis anti-convulsant shakes up epilepsy treatment

12:01 12 September 2012 by Douglas Heaven
The versatile cannabis plant may have a new use: it could be used to control epileptic seizures with fewer side effects than currently prescribed anti-convulsants.

Ben Whalley at the University of Reading, UK, and colleagues worked with GW Pharmaceuticals in Wiltshire, UK, to investigate the anti-convulsant properties of cannabidivarin (CBDV), a little-studied chemical found in cannabis and some other plants.

There is "big, historical, anecdotal evidence" that cannabinoids can be used to control human seizures, says Whalley, but the "side-effect baggage" means there have been relatively few studies of its pharmaceutical effect on this condition.

The team investigated the effectiveness of CBDV one of around 100 non-psychoactive cannabinoids found in cannabis as an anti-convulsant. They induced seizures in live rats and mice that had been given the drug. These animals experienced less severe seizures and lower mortality compared with animals given a placebo. The drug also had fewer side effects and was better tolerated than three of the most widely prescribed anticonvulsants.

Epileptic seizures affect about one per cent of the population. Left uncontrolled, they can lead to depression, cognitive decline and death. If you control the seizures, says Whalley, "the chances of death drop away completely". The decision about whether to test the drug in humans will be made next year.

"This is a very positive result," says Ley Sander, an epilepsy specialist at University College London, UK, who was not involved in the study. "We need new drugs," he says. "For 20-30 per cent of people with epilepsy, nothing seems to work."

But he urges caution. "The animals in the study are made epileptic," he says, which is not how epilepsy is acquired in humans. He adds that what you see in animal models doesn't always translate directly into humans.

"Most compounds showing promise in preclinical studies never reach market," warns Mark Richardson of the Epilepsy Research Group at King's College London. "But I agree that these results justify progressing further down the drug development pipeline."

Journal reference: British Journal of Pharmacology, DOI: 10.1111/j.1476-5381.2012.02207.x
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