TLE-Auditory Hallucinations/Aura-Seizure?

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I've been having auditory hallucinations as of late. During my research re: their connection to TLE I came across two varying articles.

On stated that they're auras, the other that they're seizures.

Just tired and confused about the whole matter.
 
Hi Cinnabar,

Auras = simple partial seizures that precede or warn of a more extensive seizure. Even if they don't turn into a complex partial or tonic-clonic, they are still considered simple partial seizures.

The only time an aura wouldn't be considered a seizure is if it's a migraine aura rather than an an epilepsy-related one. (And even that is a pretty hazy distinction).

Hope you feel better soon.
 
I've been having auditory hallucinations as of late. During my research re: their connection to TLE I came across two varying articles.
On stated that they're auras, the other that they're seizures.
Just tired and confused about the whole matter.


Cinnabar, Nak's right, auras are Simple Partial seizures and are usually put into categories depending on the type of symptoms the person experiences:

MOTOR seizures:
These cause a change in muscle activity. For example, a person may have abnormal movements such as jerking of a finger or stiffening of part of the body. These movements may spread, either staying on one side of the body (opposite the affected area of the brain) or extending to both sides. Other examples are weakness, which can even affect speech, and coordinated actions such as laughter or hand movements.

SENSORY seizures:
These cause changes in any one of the senses. People with sensory seizures may smell or taste things that aren't there; hear clicking, ringing, or a person's voice when there is no actual sound; or feel a sensation of "pins and needles" or numbness. Seizures may even be painful for some patients. They may feel as if they are floating or spinning in space. They may have visual hallucinations, seeing things that aren't there (a spot of light, a scene with people). They also may experience illusions—distortions of true sensations. For instance, they may believe that a parked car is moving farther away, or that a person's voice is muffled when it's actually clear.

AUTONOMIC seizures:
These cause changes in the part of the nervous system that automatically controls bodily functions. These common seizures may include strange or unpleasant sensations in the stomach, chest, or head; changes in the heart rate or breathing; goose bumps.

PSYCHIC seizures:
These seizures change how people think, feel, or experience things. They may have problems with memory, garbled speech, an inability to find the right word, or trouble understanding spoken or written language. They may suddenly feel emotions like fear, depression, or happiness with no outside reason. Some may feel as though they are outside their body or may have feelings of déja vu ("I've been through this before") or jamais vu ("This is new to me"— even though the setting is really familiar).

I'm not sure what 'types' of things you're hearing but these are just common examples given. Any epilepsy-related auditory hallucination would fall under the Sensory category, and possibly the Psychic as well depending on the nature of the hallucination. I know researching info can be frustrating, so it's always best to go with an actual professional, and as I have had an epileptologist confirm auras are simple partials, I have no doubt.
 
Thanks for breaking this all down, gtowngirl

I would say that I definetly have experienced Motor seizures. It spreads throughout my enitre body. When getting them I'd have my ex place his hands on my shoulders. I just felt so ungrounded, as if I were about to fly around the room. It will always start with the buckling of my knees.

And then the Sensory seizures. A voice or ringing sounds. Lately, the sound of just one telephone ring rather than the ringing in ones ear. Sounded so real, I thought I was getting a prank call during all hours of the evening. Night after night. I actually had my telephone number changed three times. The last one with a block. Still the ring again. This was the begining of a full blown TLE paranoid psychosis (or maybe best put Psychic seizure) where I wound up in the hospital. There, I came to realize that I was having an auditory hallucination. There, single phone ring. There was no phone in my room.

And, yes, many OBEs throughout my life. In the 80's if you had an OBE, you were considered to be spritually evolved. eg Shirley McClaine's Book "Out on a Limb" where she describes OBE when in a spring in Tibet or some exotic place.

Only twice have I experienced garbled speech. Unfortunately, once when I was riding the elevator with the VP of my company. Just us two. I made absolutely no sense whatsoever and the horror of not being able to stop! He was so nervous all he could do was spurt out a laugh.

I do know that various forms of dissociation are interconnected with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy: Derealization, Depersonanilization, Dissociative Identity Disorder. The latter I had been diagnosed with years before my first Tonic-Clonic seizure.

I don't know. Maybe DID can fall in the category of Psychic Seizure.

Gleened from one of many articles I've read:

The involvement of the temporal lobes in DID is not surprising, in light of connections between the temporal lobe and the limbic system. The latter includes the amygdale, which is involved in the processing of emotional responses and in particular fear, and the hippocampus, which is vital to memory storage. In theory, the patient was able to induce dissociative states seemingly at will, presumably by increased volitional inputs involving neurons in other cortical areas-the temporal lobe has heightened sensitivity to electrical stimulation from other neurons—and when emerging from a dissociative state did appear confused and disoriented.

What does disturb me concerning this patient study is the following sole statement: she was able to induce dissociative states at will. No mention that the patient is most always "unaware" of being in an altered state. Only twice in my life have I "induced" a dissociative state. Both times to perform a high task which the very aware "I" could not.

The link I provided below might be of interest.






http://www.priory.com/psych/did.htm
 
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looks like I have experienced all of the above on one or more occasion in my vast experience with E.- over 40 years now. My "recognized" seizure of choice has been T/C. All the other sensations that are listed and labeled I have described to Neurologist through the years with no response. Not too surprising I find myself a bit of a hermit in middle age. I realize, thanks to internet/CWE that I have avoidance behaivors attributed to my "other" symptoms that I have experienced in the presence of others. Just recently I experienced a psychic seizure in the presence of another person. I quickly left, and found myself wanting to "hide" in case it happens again. I suppose it would be time for me to see a epileptologist just to regroup, and since I have never been to one before. Has been almost 10 years since I saw a neuro. I have a cousin who invited me to come and stay with her for a visit, which made me anxious and sad. I am afraid to go away from my comfort zone, at the same time I feel like a prisoner in my own home.

Thanks for sharing this list, I will keep it so as not to rely on my memory when presenting to a doctor.
 
I've been having auditory hallucinations as of late. During my research re: their connection to TLE I came across two varying articles.

On stated that they're auras, the other that they're seizures.

Hi Laurie,

I've had CP and TC seizures. I knew I was going into a bad TC seizure several times when I experienced auditory hallucinations. The "voice" in my head starts as a whisper, and right before I lose consciousness, the voice in my head was so loud, I feel like my head was going to explode. Thankfully, this has only happened on several occasions and I've only told you folks and my dr. My epileptologist has told me the same thing that Nakamova said, the aura is actually a simple partial seizure. I've also experienced seizures where it looked like my arm was detached from my body, or seeing others when no one else did, weird things like that, but only when I was going into a seizure. Years ago, I would have been labeled "psychotic". Seems like I've suffered almost every kind of "aura" listed
in this website www.epilepsy.com, (BTW, I believe this is where qtowngirl got her info).
This one does provide info on auras:
http://www.epilepsy.com/EPILEPSY/auras
 
Thank you both for your replies. I've been to both of your places. For now, I'm a bit shaken.

I've just returned from a Glaucoma Specialist who said my condition, believe it or not, might be connected to TLE being that it's Juvenille Glaucoma. That there may have been lesions shown on my brain from my MRI from two years ago. Can TLE be more complicated? Just another connundrum I have to aquanit myself with.

I'm now shaken because I have discovered today that I've lost nearly all inferiror vision (bottom area) of my left eye.

The opthomologist said she was not equipt to deal with my condition and that I should seek an acedemic specialist. So, off I go to see what can be discovered and done.
 
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Often times juvenile glaucoma stems from diabetes, also, or high blood pressure. It can also be hereditary. I also have Type 1 diabetes, so I am at risk for glaucoma, plus my father has it and had a stroke, my cousin has it, so did several of my aunts.
 
It runs on both sides of my family. Though her indicating a connection to brain lesions, possibly TLE related, gives me strong cause for yet more searching. But not this evening. Need to relax to go full steam on Monday.
 
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