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Hi!

I was happy to find this community, which seems very open, generally kind and helpful! These are very rare qualities even off the internet these days. I am here looking for another anchor in a stormy sea. In return, I am also (as best that I can) here for the community, learning/teaching, helping, and as an anchor in the stormy seas of others here. I apologize for taking a while to make my introduction and an Epilepsy Biography, I haven’t been online much since joining and I am working to change that. Please forgive me if you find what I post long, especially for an introductory post. I assure you it is worth the read!

Bottom line at the top: I was pushed out into the world with half the tools I needed to deal with Epilepsy. It was done on purpose… I only had what I needed to deal with the Rage. I had to adapt and I do not apologize for it… I am a survivor, not a victim!

I suspect that my Epilepsy (the “S. P. S. Rollercoaster” as I refer to it at times) started in early childhood, possibly from a forceps assisted delivery, the massive ear infections I used to get, a head injury and/or some combination of those. At age 15 (1984), 12 months into 15 month hospital stay at a top tier Children’s Psychiatric Hospital, I was diagnosed with TLE (sps) w/secondary Intermittent Explosive Disorder (also abbreviated IED and is now generally known as Aggressive Affect [AA] or Rage Disorder depending upon severity) by Dietrich Blumer, MD and Ralph D. Rabinovitch, MD. A "classic case" as he had said. Thirty years, and many life trials later, I find myself once again fighting for a foothold against Epilepsy.

My current status is: Intractable TLE (sps) w/secondary Intermittent Explosive Disorder. Diagnosed at age 15 (1984, I now suspect from early childhood) with TLE (sps) w/secondary Intermittent Explosive Disorder (also abbreviated IED and is now generally known as Aggressive Affect [AA] or Rage Disorder depending upon severity) about 12 months into a 15 month hospitalization. Cleared of Primary/Axis I Psychiatric Disorders. I am deeply grateful for the perseverance of Dietrich Bloomer, MD, Ralph D. Rabinovitch, MD, and my parents to this day; for as "ugly" as Epilepsy is, prison is where I would have found myself eventually and that is a much worse place to be. An essential part of my treatment plan at that time was to “adapt”, not just take medications, in order to effectively deal with my “type” (as they put it) of Epilepsy with Rages. The intense Psychotherapy I underwent in the hospital went a long way towards that ultimate goal. However, there were many important things about Epilepsy that were left out, that I wasn’t told. I had started to suspect this over the past 4 years as I had never looked too deeply into Epilepsy before then. All of this has really come to hit me extremely hard over the past year as my Epilepsy took a very sharp turn for the worse. Despite the apparent handicap regarding lack of knowledge about Epilepsy, I guess I haven’t done too bad overall, not fabulous either. However, like I said above; I am not locked up like some rampaging animal, right? I had to prove Rabinovitch wrong! (and myself more than anyone else?) Despite having messed up more things than I can remember, I eventually got my life stabilized. Yes, for all you who are wondering: I had driven for 29 years until last summer… Really hard to keep the truck parked as I so much love to drive the back roads on nice sunny days… (and please, let’s not start here about opinions on driving!)

While nearly all of the physical violence "left" me over 24 years ago, and the rest was dealt with through therapy over the interceding years, there is still that tendency for the "verbal rampage", odd verbal outbursts, "dead zones" and mood inconsistencies. On that, I absolutely must acknowledge the love and support of my wife! She has not only stood by me, she has also attended doctor appointments, helped track moods/rages/seizures, learned about Epilepsy, attended therapy sessions with me (so that she can better understand my rages and mood inconsistencies, how she can best respond to them, so that I can better understand her responses and initial feelings before her responses and how she sees me), and she has (when she need not of any length) put up with many of my multi-day "verbal rampage" sessions and even more of the often occurring short ones.

My Epilepsy Treatment journey so far has gone from top doctors in one state to one in another state that simply thought I was making the whole thing up to a another (in that same state) who felt I had "grown out" of the “seizures” (Rages). Changed treatment in 1994, which was essentially going off the Tegretol, and all went reasonably well (other than it being the worst time in my life to make that choice) into the mid 2000's. That’s when things started on a slow downward spiral. I was on Klonopin by 2003, Tegretol by 2006 and Primidone for tremor by 2007. Klonopin was replaced with Ativan in 2006 (got off that stuff last year!) My first Atonic (2010), worsening of Rage off and on again, development of Essential Tremors ([2005] or is it related to Epilepsy? not too sure now, however the s%!# is nearly constant now... like a vibrator on low, with no off switch, plugged into the wall...), development of what appears to be Bell’s Palsy, plus other stuff I both had and didn’t have before. More recently, the nightmares have started again and so has the lashing out in my sleep. Some I have been able to confirm were in timing with the cycling of my VNS. ...AND THE RINGING IN MY EARS!!! All of this leads me to where I am today. I am on my third doctor where I currently live and this one is helping, finally! Standard EEGs and MRIs going back to 1984 have been clear, except for a 2010 MRI after the Atonic which showed possible early MS (compared to a 2006 MRI). About 6 months ago, I had my first 72 hour EEG ever, yes, EVER. What a mess! Stuff everywhere (vast majority, if not nearly all, "sub-clinical" as I have seen it called) and for very long periods, like hours... My wife and I had already suspected that at least some of what I was experiencing already was seizure related. The previous two doctors had confirmed a few other things too. Other than that, the only things I knew since 1984 was that my "Rage", De'ja Vu, rare “Vertigo” and smell/taste were related to the Epilepsy. I was able to match some things up to the EEG that I previously thought were just plain normal/odd occurrences and/or other health issues (IBS or sleep related for example) along with some events that happened that I was uncertain as to the cause. Yup, you guessed it... Certainly an eye opener and it did make me wonder how long it has been going on. Last summer, I was maxed on Trileptal and Topiramate, mid range on Divalproex DR and I was getting worse fast. I was a mess... I am still a mess yet improving slowly! Since then, I have switched out Trileptal for Vimpat, stayed on Topiramate, maxed out on Divalproex DR and have had a VNS implanted. The VNS was implanted on October 14th, 2013. Settings as of January 24 are .75ma for 30 seconds every 5 minutes with magnet mode at 1.0ma for 60 seconds. The magnet mode really kicks! I only use it a few times initially to get used to it then leave it alone until needed. Next upward adjustment is expected on February 18th. Yes, hurts like… well it just hurts bad half the time and it does screw up not only my voice. It also screws up my ability to not just form words vocally (and other sounds too); it also “jams” the up whole process at times right into the brain (like control signals to the voice box and even word finding)… I sleep like a rock most of the time though! Not about to give up!

p.s. If anyone has heard of and has information on where I can find Dr. Rabinovitch's "Empty Child" research and published works, please let me know!

note: Edited to clear up unintended misunderstanding of the use of "IED".
 
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SayThatAgain?

Do not be sorry, we all have a story as you know, there are very good people here who will help and give support. So welcome to C.W.E. try and enjoy yourself and we will try to help you as much as you help us.
 
Hi SayThatAgain, welcome to CWE!

I am on my third doctor where I currently live and this one is helping, finally! Standard EEGs and MRIs going back to 1984 have been clear, except for a 2010 MRI after the Atonic which showed possible early MS (compared to a 2006 MRI). About 6 months ago, I had my first 72 hour EEG ever, yes, EVER. What a mess! Stuff everywhere (vast majority, if not nearly all, "sub-clinical" as I have seen it called) and for very long periods, like hours... My wife and I had already suspected that at least some of what I was experiencing already was seizure related. The previous two doctors had confirmed a few other things too. Other than that, the only things I knew since 1984 was that my "Rage", De'ja Vu, rare “Vertigo” and smell/taste were related to the Epilepsy. I was able to match some things up to the EEG that I previously thought were just plain normal/odd occurrences and/or other health issues (IBS or sleep related for example) along with some events that happened that I was uncertain as to the cause. Yup, you guessed it... Certainly an eye opener and it did make me wonder how long it has been going on.
Unfortunately yours is not an uncommon story. :( Particularly with TLE, there are misdiagnoses and treatment problems along the way, and it can take several doctors (and medications) before finding a good one that can put you on the path to relief.

You mentioned that you have IBS. Sometimes problems with metabolism/digestion can be a factor in triggering seizures. There are studies linking IBS and seizures to be found in pubmed (their website is down right now, but you can find the links by searching) as well as http://www.ibsgroup.org/forums/topic/91387-temporal-lobe-seizure-and-irritable-bowel-syndrome/
 
Hi and welcome. I must admit that I only scanned your post, as I am on kind of a tight schedule at the moment, but there were a couple of things that stood out. One is that my understanding of interictal epileptiform discharges (IED) is that they are not synonymous with partial seizures but with subclinical seizures, also called electroencephelographic seizures. The other was about your VNS. I have had one implanted since January 8 of this year, and, after the initial setting, I have been ramped up once, from .25 to .50. The increase to .50 caused pain in my throat and ear, and, I believe, gave me breathing problems in my sleep. I immediately went to my neurologist and asked him to reduce the frequency from 30 to 15 Hz, and the pulse width from 500 to 250 microseconds. The current stays at .75 and we will continue to increase that every 2 weeks, probably until it gets to 1.25 or 1.5. Decreasing the frequency and pulse width made all the difference, and the literature shows that a reduced frequency and pw (if not below 15 and 250) does not seem to make a difference therapeutically, but can reduce the side-effects. You didn't say what those first two settings were, but you might want to look into it. VNS is still a relatively new therapy and many neuors don't have a lot of patients on it and tend to use the "cookie-cutter" parameters unless you ask them to change them. Anyhow, welcome! I gotta go get started on the day's to do list.

Onward and upward!
 
Hi!

Bottom line at the top: I was pushed out into the world with half the tools I needed to deal with Epilepsy. It was done on purpose… I only had what I needed to deal with the Rage. I had to adapt and I do not apologize for it… I am a survivor, not a victim!

I suspect that my Epilepsy (the “S. P. S. Rollercoaster” as I refer to it at times) started in early childhood, possibly from a forceps assisted delivery, the massive ear infections I used to get, a head injury and/or some combination of those. At age 15 (1984), 12 months into 15 month hospital stay at a top tier Children’s Psychiatric Hospital, I was diagnosed with TLE w/IED (now known as w/ Aggressive Affect [or Rage Disorder]) by Dietrich Blumer, MD and Ralph D. Rabinovitch, MD. A "classic case" as he had said. Thirty years, and many life trials later, I find myself once again fighting for a foothold against Epilepsy.

Hi and welcome to CWE,

We are all survivors of this unruly condition called epilepsy. I was misdiagnosed, too. I ended up in the hospital with 2nd and 3rd degree burns because of the wrong diagnosis. Plus, some of us with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy do have a very difficult finding the right formula that works for us. I have TLE and have had it for over 30 years. I've tried many meds, had brain surgery (unsuccessful) and now have the VNS. After my Temporal Lobectomy, I was seizure free for 14 months. But during that time and ever since then, I've struggled with mood swings. At my three month check-up after the brain surgery, I told the neurosurgeon I was SOOOO depressed and didn't understand why, since I hadn't had any seizures. Anyway, he immediately called in the neuropsychiatrist--- Dr. Dietrich Blumer! This was 1993 and in Memphis, TN. At that time he was working with the UT EpiCare Center. There were some wonderful docs there back then. So Dr. Blumer tried me on many different anti-depressants, nothing was working. I was suicidal at times. He said I needed tricyclics and an SSRI. Then he put me on an anti-psychotic medication. Dr. Blumer told me I was a difficult case and at times he told me he hadn't told his class about me, since he was also a professor at UT Memphis. He is now retired and I've moved, too.

I'm finally somewhat stabilized with my moods and only take Zoloft for that. And along with the VNS for seizures, I also take Keppra and a small dose of Topomax + Potiga.
 
My epilepsy was diagnosed when I was 2.I had about three different neuro's when I was a kid that I went through. I've had one for 23 yrs one before him, and I've gone to a lot of specialist.I've been to about 6 in all.I'm on my 23rd med.I've had brain surgery didn't work for me.I had VNS.
I'm now taken Tegetol,Topamax,Onfi and Phenobarb.
 
Decreasing the frequency and pulse width made all the difference, and the literature shows that a reduced frequency and pw (if not below 15 and 250) does not seem to make a difference therapeutically, but can reduce the side-effects. You didn't say what those first two settings were, but you might want to look into it. VNS is still a relatively new therapy and many neuors don't have a lot of patients on it and tend to use the "cookie-cutter" parameters unless you ask them to change them.

I've had the VNS since 1997 and it has been around since the early 1990's. Initially, folks can have trouble with breathing, choking, wheezing, etc, until they fiddle with the VNS and settings and find the right pulse width. Once 911 was called because I was wheezing so bad after I had the VNS. The dr. turned down my pulse width and I was fine. I had trouble swallowing the first few weeks, but now that I'm experienced with it, no problem, Just had to learn to go S-L-O-W! Experienced, well informed epileptologists Do know about the VNS therapy. Go to a University Hospital with a Neurology clinic for Epilepsy with the best and latest.
 
You mentioned that you have IBS. Sometimes problems with metabolism/digestion can be a factor in triggering seizures. There are studies linking IBS and seizures to be found in pubmed (their website is down right now, but you can find the links by searching) as well as

Thank you for the information and link! I will definitely take a good look at them! Since having the VNS turned on my IBS issues have dropped to a more manageable level, which is just fine by me! It wasn't the med changes either as it was present years before I want back on any meds. That isn't to say it is gone though. The IBS-Seizure link is interesting though. Potentially confirms that the VNS is either indirectly helping to sooth the IBS, is stopping/moderating a seizure triggered by the IBS and/or is cutting off an IBS-Seizure feed back loop in some way when it cycles (what I call the stimulation of the Vagus Nerve) automatically or via magnet mode. Needless to say, when it is excruciatingly painful I now know that a seizure is definitely happening and it is heaven to finally have even the partial relief of using the magnet! That's 2 nasty meds off my list!
 
...there were a couple of things that stood out. One is that my understanding of interictal epileptiform discharges (IED) is that they are not synonymous with partial seizures but with subclinical seizures, also called electroencephelographic seizures. The other was about your VNS. I have had one implanted since January 8 of this year, and, after the initial setting, I have been ramped up once, from .25 to .50. The increase to .50 caused pain in my throat and ear, and, I believe, gave me breathing problems in my sleep. I immediately went to my neurologist and asked him to reduce the frequency from 30 to 15 Hz, and the pulse width from 500 to 250 microseconds. The current stays at .75 and we will continue to increase that every 2 weeks, probably until it gets to 1.25 or 1.5. Decreasing the frequency and pulse width made all the difference, and the literature shows that a reduced frequency and pw (if not below 15 and 250) does not seem to make a difference therapeutically, but can reduce the side-effects. You didn't say what those first two settings were, but you might want to look into it. VNS is still a relatively new therapy and many neuors don't have a lot of patients on it and tend to use the "cookie-cutter" parameters unless you ask them to change them.

Thank you for bringing up the definition for "IED", interictal epileptiform discharge, that most people know. You reminded me that there are two definitions for the acronym. The other, to which I was referring, is Intermittent Explosive Disorder. I do forget that most people may not know this, even those in the medical field who should! I have corrected my post for clarity. I am still learning about the "sub clinical" seizures though, that is a new one. I don't recall ever hearing of those before coming here.

As for my VNS settings, the other two are the standard 30 and 500. I appreciate the settings info, thank you! I had read through your thread the other day and I am glad I did! I will certainly bring this up at some point with my neurologist. I have been keeping my upward adjustments on about a 4 week schedule primarily due to not wanting to go too fast. Allow some time to let my body, brain and mind adjust to each level before the next increase. Sure, I want the VNS to work so bad, like anyone else who had/has one! I decided, with the support of my wife, to go at half the normal pace in the hopes of potentially avoiding some of the issues others have had. So far it's been a mixed bag, so I really don't know if a faster pace would have been different other than having a harder psychological impact. It's the "adapt" mindset at work. Fortunately, breathing doesn't seem to be too much of an issue unless I try to talk loudly through a whole cycle or if it wakes me and I panic thinking that I can't get enough air. The latter usually happens if I fall asleep reading or watching a TV show and end up with my chin on my chest. Use of the magnet, especially the first few times or if not used in a while, does take the wind out of me a bit.
 
Hey STA
Welcome. I'll read over your post later today. I'm at work and that is a book!
 
Hi and welcome to CWE,

We are all survivors of this unruly condition called epilepsy. I was misdiagnosed, too. I ended up in the hospital with 2nd and 3rd degree burns because of the wrong diagnosis. Plus, some of us with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy do have a very difficult finding the right formula that works for us. I have TLE and have had it for over 30 years. I've tried many meds, had brain surgery (unsuccessful) and now have the VNS. After my Temporal Lobectomy, I was seizure free for 14 months. But during that time and ever since then, I've struggled with mood swings. At my three month check-up after the brain surgery, I told the neurosurgeon I was SOOOO depressed and didn't understand why, since I hadn't had any seizures. Anyway, he immediately called in the neuropsychiatrist--- Dr. Dietrich Blumer! This was 1993 and in Memphis, TN. At that time he was working with the UT EpiCare Center. There were some wonderful docs there back then. So Dr. Blumer tried me on many different anti-depressants, nothing was working. I was suicidal at times. He said I needed tricyclics and an SSRI. Then he put me on an anti-psychotic medication. Dr. Blumer told me I was a difficult case and at times he told me he hadn't told his class about me, since he was also a professor at UT Memphis. He is now retired and I've moved, too.

I'm finally somewhat stabilized with my moods and only take Zoloft for that. And along with the VNS for seizures, I also take Keppra and a small dose of Topomax + Potiga.

Yes, Epilepsy is truly unruly. Well put! It behaves much like the weather, you never quite know what will actually happen one day to the next. From what I have been reading here, it does seem that misdiagnosis of tle is more the rule than the exception. That doesn't surprise me, although I had hoped that by now the situation would have improved. Alas, sadly it hasn't. From what I have found in my personal experience and research, the "Professionals" seem to be continuing to bicker over what is Psychiatric and what is Neurological, most especially when it applies to tle, partial seizures and Affects. Those of us that have this tend to exhibit classic signs of Psychiatric Illness, like Intermittent Explosive Disorder, Anxiety/Panic Attacks, Depression, suicidal tendencies, self harm tendencies, Schizophrenia/Schizoid qualities, Manic Depression, OCD, and many others. That's what makes it so hard to diagnose, because in the absence of something physical pointing to Epilepsy the issues are approached as "Primary/Axis I" Mental Illness (or as listed in the DSM) until something points somewhere else. Far too many Mental Health "Professionals" will mercilessly use anything in an attempt to force the square peg to fit their round hole. Too many Neurologists will do this as well unfortunately. All of them should know better by now! [stop rant] In any case, it can be difficult to differentiate between what is an actual Mental Health issue (co-morbidity) and what is an Affect of seizures (secondary). Misdiagnosis is horrible for anyone, especially being told you have a Mental Illness when you know it is at the least more then that (if not a Mental Health issue at all). It can be so much wasted time and effort that could have been better spent elsewhere with the right diagnosis. I am happy that you, and others, eventually got the right diagnosis!

For me, it did seem that every month or so, it was a different diagnosis. The doctors didn't really know what was at the root of the issue. When they thought they had it, they would discover that didn't fit either. It wasn't until I was put on an anti-psychotic (Stelazine) that things started to change, and not for the better either initially. Eventually, in part due to how I responded to the medication, I was hooked up with Dr. Blumer and the rest is history so to speak. I am happy that he was able to help you (very sure same Dr. Blumer, I looked) and so many others as well! It is good that you have been able to find some relief and mood stabilization over the years! SSRIs (and the like) don't do a thing for me and the anti-psychotics (both 1st and 2nd generation) are a 100% "no go". Neither helps in a positive way, and while both actually degrade my mood the anti-psychotics are like "Psycho Hand Grenades".
 
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