Learn to live with frequent tonic-clonic seizures ... How?

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First off, I apologize for essentially double-posting this. I first added it to an existing thread about living with t/c's, where Nakamova was kind enough to give me a very useful reply. Thank you, Nakamova!


Then I thought more people with similar experiences might read this if it had its own thread. So here goes.

Do any of you have any pointers on what to do when the t/c's become frequent enough that it starts to seem as if every muscle hurts all the time, and the general fatigue never really goes away anymore?

Since August, the frequency of my t/c's has been steadily increasing. I've never been completely seizure-free, except for a period of about five years between the ages of 18 and 23 that now seems like a miracle. But the tonic-clonic seizures used to be sporadic and, as someone wrote above, manageable with appropriate doses of 'sleeping it off' and 'babying' afterwards.

Things are different now. For the month of March, 2013, I stopped counting after t/c #50, which occurred on March 26. They often seem to happen in clusters: I can go three days without having a seizure, and then have four of them on the same day -- but it's not status epilepticus, as I invariably regain consciousness for up to several hours between them.

The net result, for me, of having 50 tonic-clonic seizures over a period of four weeks, is that I feel sore and tired all the time. "A few days off work" is not really an option in that scenario, or I'd have to stop going to work at all.

Before you ask: yes, I've seen my neurologist multiple times over the past few months, and once every three months before that. In the four years since I went back on meds, we've tried eight different medications in various dosages and combinations. Medications that used to work well for me when I was younger don't seem to do anything anymore, and some of the newer ones (like Keppra) appear to actually make the seizure activity worse.

I am not a good candidate for surgery (my seizure activity can't be isolated to a specific region in my brain). And yes, there is a tumor-like abnormality on my brain scan (they're calling it a cyst, which I suppose is less alarming, even if only slightly so), which was first observed about a year ago, but according to one doctor, could just as well have been there since before I was born. It doesn't seem to be growing, or if it is, it's growing very slowly. Nobody seems positive that it has anything to do with my epilepsy, or with the increasing frequency of my seizures. And even if it did, they would be hesitant to take it out, as there would be a reportedly significant risk of permanent vision problems afterwards.

There is one hospital within my reach that does the NVS implant surgery, but I was disqualified as a participant in their program due to other neurological issues I have (I have a mild case of cerebral palsy, which is a movement disorder).

I've now been put on the Modified Atkins Diet, even though my neurologist initially advised against that, on the grounds of it being 'too complicated to stick with'. I've been at it for about a week now, and initial results seem somewhat promising, but not exactly life-altering. I had two tonic-clonics at work yesterday, and was about as useful as a sack of potatoes for most of the rest of the day.

I've essentially been told, by three different doctors, that my issues are 'known and extremely chronic', and that even though we can keep trying to fiddle with the meds until we find something that works at least a little bit, it's likely that I'm just going to have to make peace with the fact that I can have a seizure at any time.

In other words, I have to learn to live with this. But I don't know how to live with fifty seizures a month. I don't even know how to live with ten of them in a month. Like I said, I'm sore and tired all the time. I am extremely lucky in having found a workplace, and a group of colleagues, where I am not looked at askance for having epilepsy, and where nobody complains if I show up three hours late one day, and make it up whenever I can. But it still feels like a huge fight.

I made a list, recently, of 100 things I want to do before I die. It's my way of reminding myself that life is still worth living. Because sometimes, I forget why I'm still trying.

So, besides looking towards the future, what else should I be doing to make the road ahead a little smoother?
 
warm welcome Saranoya,

Damn, that’s hard going...so sorry :( something has really pushed the seizures to forefront??

Have you seen one neurologist only? Would you consider 2nd opinion? in our search for help for my Son, he does bio feedback (brain training), we actively explore via naturopathy, diet AND some.....and will not give up...if surgery is not option there are many options that should and could be explored.

you are not alone.......got me a 'to do'list to boot and I dont have E

we learn from each other here......




Diet may bring better results than one can think....seriously...
 
Thanks Chaz, and thanks again, Nakamova.

I did a little research, and found out that neurofeedback training is not yet officially recognized as an effective treatment for epilepsy around here (maybe not in the US either, I don't know). If I went that route, it would have to come out of my own pocket, which might be doable, but would require very lean living for a while. So I'll see what the diet does, first. But I will keep the other option in mind, in case Atkins doesn't work out.

I have been treated by eight different epilepsy neurologists (as opposed to cerebral palsy teams with neurologists on them, who for the most part are clueless when it comes to epilepsy, and vice versa) at three different academic hospitals in my lifetime. The one I'm currently with is the first epilepsy specialist to whom I didn't have to explain what cerebral palsy is when I first met him. That's more than I can say for most other doctors I've encountered. And also, he's the head of the only treatment center in my country that I know does VNS implants. But like I said, I was considered and then rejected for that based on factors that have nothing to do with my epilepsy. I may consider getting a second, or third, or fourth opinion, but only if I could be certain that the person I was going to would be more knowledgeable than the person I'm currently with.

In the meantime, I bought myself a skater's helmet. I wore a somewhat similar helmet for years while in primary school, but rebelled against the idea in my early teens, especially since my seizures, by then, were mostly under control with medication and had become relatively infrequent. I guess it's back to the basics now.

Other than that, I'm at a loss for what to do. One of the biggest issues I have is the fact that I rely on help from other people *all* the time. In and of itself, this is not necessarily a problem. People are mostly happy to lend a hand whenever and however they can. Except, by virtue of the unpredictability and frequency of my seizures, I've often ended up in situations where someone who was with me during a seizure actually had some other place to be in short order, but didn't dare leave me alone, after they'd just seen me drop and hit my head and other appendages on the pavement over and over. Plus, as all of you who have ever experienced a tonic-clonic will know, these seizures are exhausting, and I usually wouldn't be able to go anywhere on my own after that, even if I tried.

When I subvert someone's plans once, or twice, by having a seizure at an inopportune time, they just shrug, go with the flow, and afterwards return home, happy to have been a good Samaritan today. But when it starts happening once out of every two times we meet, it gets old fast. People learn to avoid going anywhere with me, unless we're not alone. It costs both them and me what could otherwise have been a valuable relationship.

Any ideas there? I don't have a significant other. And even if I did, the idea would never be for that person to be my caretaker first, and everything else second. I have a fantastic group of colleagues and many great friends, but I have to be careful not to burden them to o much, because if I do, some of them might just stay away after a while. Which, from their point of view, would be understandable.

I don't think I'm the only one here who has had these kinds of issues. Any and all input would be very, very welcome.
 
Welcome Saranoya,

I've had numerous seizures in the past, but not as many as you say you experience in a month, nor do I have Cerebral Palsy. Wow! That is more than a full plate!

I used to have 4-5 Complex Partial's a day that could often times go into a TC, also. I eventually had a temporal lobectomy done and was seizure free for 14 months. Then my seizures came back with vengeance. The TC's were worse after the brain surgery. So we tried many more meds, to no avail. Finally I had the VNS, and it has helped me out tremendously, although it doesn't completely stop seizures.

I'm no longer married and both of my children are grown and live on their own now. Also, I had a bad car accident last December, so I cannot drive again and don't have a car now, so have to rely on public transportation and have some wonderful friends nearby. My family is absolutely worthless when it comes to transportation. I might as well not exist when that subject comes up! So I live by myself and have to ask others for help. I've learned to tell them up front that I have E and that if I go into a seizure, don't panic. Like my son tells me, "It is what it is." This is my life....... so if I'm the one who has to deal with the exhausting seizures and drugs with the miserable side effects, then others can certainly deal with witnessing a seizure once in a while and lending a helping hand. I know that it is easier said than done, but at least I have found out over the years who my friends 'really' are. And now, I really do not have many real friends because of my illness. Oh well.... such is life... their day will come. None of us are invincible!!
 
Hi Cint,

It's nice to know that I am really not alone in this. I think there's value in what you say about 'real' friends, though I don't believe that any of the people in my life right now are insincere in any of the help they offer me. On the contrary. I just notice that for some of them, irritation is starting to creep in from time to time. I had a seizure on my way home from my piano exam, Friday before last. There was someone with me who is also in my music theory class, and who has therefore witnessed (and born the consequences of) quite a few of my seizures already. She said something to another person who was with us, at a point in time when I don't think she knew I could hear her (I was 'drifting up' after the seizure, but hadn't yet communicated with her in any way). She said: it's always the same crap with her. I understood where she was coming from -- especially since she had to miss her bus (again) because of me.

To be clear about the frequency of my seizures: it's not as if I've had fifty seizures a month, every month, for God knows how long now. March 2013 was definitely an outlier. According to my doctor (and the nurse at work), maybe the temperature swings had something to do with it. In March, it could be freezing 5°C below zero one day, and then raining at +5°C the next. To my knowledge, I've never had another month with quite as many tonic-clonics as that.

It is true, though, that the frequency of my seizures has been ramping up for a while now. I really started noticing that something was amiss this summer, when I had a tonic-clonic seizure seven times over the course of a ten-day scouting trip. Then in October, I hit my head pretty badly during a seizure, didn't pay enough attention to the resulting wound, and got an infection. I was on antibiotics for nearly three months, and it still refused to heal completely. Then finally, around Christmas I think, we found an antibiotic that worked (in terms of getting the infection to heal), but it made me so nauseous that I basically stopped eating for three weeks. I was offered the option of going into the hospital to get the meds intravenously (which would probably have had much less of a detrimental effect on my digestion, and been a wiser choice in general), but I refused because I hate hospitals. And at the end of that three-week period, I ended up in the hospital anyway, because my potassium level was so low that my heart had started beating irregularly, which caused fainting spells with secondary convulsions (go figure). I had lost 25 pounds since New Year's Eve.

That particular spell of wisdom and common sense on my part wrecked havoc on my body, needless to say. I had stayed on the same AED's all throughout December and January, but my blood levels of the stuff got pretty badly out of whack. And while they are now back to where they should be (or so we think), the t/c's are still way too common for my or anyone else's comfort.

Anyway, all of this just to say: the fifty seizures a month thing is by no means 'business as usual' for me, and I dearly hope it won't have to become 'business as usual'. But my doctor doesn't seem to have that many options left in his bag of tricks (I was the one who proposed the Atkins diet, not him), except he thinks that if we find the 'magic' combination of drugs, I might eventually get back to 'business as usual'.

But like I said: if 'business as usual' is ten t/c's a month (the way it had been for a while before the whole antibiotics episode), then I still don't necessarily know how to deal with that gracefully. I guess acceptance is a big part of the battle. And you seem to have managed that part of it pretty well. For which you definitely have my respect.

Thanks again, sincerely, for your input.
 
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Hey, wow like youve just described my life from exactly the same month too!!, i thought it was just me that was like this, except i get forced out of work because of HR rules, -.- , i also ended up on a course of antibiotics, for a chronic sinus infection that numerous doctors missed, now my seizures have ceased i say ceased too the point im now having 1-2 a week or none atall, im starting too believe when we have this many seizures its our body saying hang on a minute
 
wow... I have one only about... every 6 months on average... to hear of having them everyday... I wouldn't be able to function. I wouldn't be able to work. To have THAT many TC's, it's a nightmare for me. So to see you going through this with a chin up and a fighting spirit... god damn, you're incredible. I don't know why Epilepsy is so finicky... I have myoclonic seizures to a degree almost unheard of... but haven't had TC's in 10 months, now. It's a friggin' funny disorder of the brain.
 
Hi, Andrew.

Thanks for your message!

I have to say, while I appreciate your encouraging words ('fighting spirit' ... I like that!), I haven't been feeling all that 'incredible', lately. I find myself offloading my frustration onto other people on a semi-regular basis. Just the day before yesterday, I had a tonic-clonic after my piano lesson, and my piano teacher, who didn't dare leave me alone, sat with me at a random bus stop for close to two hours, waiting for my strength to come back so I could go home. It didn't, really (instead I had another, smaller seizure), so she eventually called one of her other students, who took me home by car.

For about an hour of the time we spent at that bus stop, we just sat there and I talked. I talked about how epilepsy has been with me, to some degree, for most of my life, and how I've nearly always found ways to eventually live 'around' it, even when it got (temporarily) worse. I talked about how, these past few months, it's been spinning badly out of control, and how nobody really seems to know how to help me anymore. I talked about how much it bugs me that people have to *do* things like that (sit with me for hours as I try to recuperate), even though I really appreciate it. I also threw in some real zingers that I'd have been better off keeping to myself, such as that I must have been a very bad person in my former life, to get dealt my particular hand of cards (which was a failed attempt at levity), and that I do not want to live to be seventy, or even thirty, if this is the way it's going to be for the rest of my life (which is true, but not the kind of pronouncement most people know how to deal with). Also, that I know how this story ends: with nobody left who's willing to spend any significant amount of time with me, for fear that they are going to be the one left to clean up the mess when I have another seizure. I know that this could easily become true, because I've been in that situation before (though I have to admit, I was a very difficult person to deal with for other reasons too, back then, so I can't put it all on epilepsy).

I sent my piano teacher an e-mail, later, to thank her profusely for what she did, and I meant every word of that. She replied saying (in all-caps) that she'd GLADLY done it, and she probably meant every word of her message, too.

I'm still left feeling scared that, if something doesn't change soon, there will come a day when she, and other generous people I am blessed with as friends, will no longer feel they can deal with this. That I'm going to have to pick up my shit and move on, starting over somewhere else. And that, when I talked for an hour at that bus stop, I said too much. People generally don't like to hang out with those who look at the world through a pair of black-tinted shades, and I don't like to be the kind of person who does that, either. But it's been difficult, lately, to look at my life from any other angle.

I know: this too shall pass. It's just that I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel right now, and I don't even know how to get to where I *can* see it.

I'm sorry to shatter your image of me as the warrior going through this with my chin up and a fighting spirit ... I would like to be that person. I'm not. Not really. But I guess it's better to talk about that to a bunch of strangers on the internet (all of whom have probably been there, at some point), than to my poor unsuspecting piano teacher.

So, thank you to everyone reading this. It's good to have a safe(r) place to vent. And in case anyone has any magical solutions: I'm still listening! ;)
 
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