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The neuros office called this morning.

My EEG came back abnormal (The neuro thinks I have epilepsy but no tests have ever been done before the EEG on Thursday)

So that's got me concerned. She says I need to go in and sit down with the neuro. Well big problem there. My work screwed me out of my insurance, the manager didn't turn the paper work in on time so I got screwed out of my insurance and now have none.

I'm a bit concerned... I wanted it to come up fine. I wanted the blackouts to not be Epilepsy. I don't even know if the EEG showed seizure activity but it did show abnormal activity. I don't know what to do now. I'm working on getting insurance but wont have it before May first, which is after my wedding and honeymoon.

Truth be told... I'm scared I do have epilepsy and my life will never be the same as it was before the seizures I had last year. All of those who cope well with the diagnosis, how did you do it? Were you ever scared?
 
I would be surprised if anyone said they coped well with the diagnosis immediately. There is no such thing as coping well with it other than responding appropriately to it. It is normal to feel scared, normal to feel grief, normal to feel you are being given a life sentence...Don't set yourself up to fail by trying to cope 'well' with it. Just be kind to yourself and allow yourself to go through your appropriate response. In time, you will learn how to deal with the rest. One thing that helped me was to become aware that the diagnosis itself did not change anything for the worse--it told me what had been wrong for years, and it gave me the opportunity to be treated so i could improve. A diagnosis does not have the power to make you ill. It only has the power to make solutions possible. But let's not get ahead of ourselves--you've not been diagnosed with epilepsy. To answer your question more directly, I was terrified when I woke up after my first seizure and terrified when I was diagnosed. At that stage I was having tonic clonic seizures and that was terrifying. I still find them terrifying but I only get terrified when I think I'm going to have one, which is not very often these days--perhaps once every few years. It helps me tremendously to try to cope with the illness, rather than the diagnosis. If you try to cope with the diagnosis, you might end up feeling pretty powerless and out of control since there is little you can do about what the doctor has said other than go into complete denial. Having epilepsy, on the other hand, can be dealt with both physically and emotionally. If you do receive this diagnosis, don't try to swallow it all at once. Don't look fifty years into the future to try to picture what your life will be--you can't know and trying to know is painful. My suggestion is to stay in the moment because trying to control or predict the future is scarier than what is happening now--for me anyway. If I can just live in today, things are seldom as bad as I sometimes make them out to be by looking into my crystal ball. Please don't see what I'm saying as turning your current fear and circumstance into something smaller than it is. I'm not trying to say your response should be less severe or that you should stop feeling what you're feeling. I'm just suggesting that you confine your current feelings to those that apply to the current moment. There is always grief that comes after a diagnosis, but that you can confront as it happens. When I try to take everything on at once I usually find, later down the line, that I have taken on stuff that never ended up happening and had put myself through hell for nothing--because I ended up having to deal with what I thought was going to happen as well as with what did happen.
 
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Wise words from kirsten.
I had my seizures just as a ten-year relationship was ending. I was actually in the realtor's office signing the lease for a new apartment when I seized. So not only did I have this new scary diagnosis, I was in a lot of physical and emotional pain, I had to move all my belongings, I wasn't allowed to drive, and I was all alone. Except I wasn't -- friends and family came to my rescue in unexpected and amazing ways. I didn't know how to ask for help, so they pitched in without having to be asked. I would never choose to have epilepsy, but through it I've learned a lot about getting and giving help. Yes it's scary, and yes, your life does change. But not all change is unequivocally bad.

It may take some time to figure out how to cope, so be patient and gentle with yourself while you're learning and changing.
 
We all have our own struggles after being diagnosed with E. One solace for me is this site, I come here often, I don't always post, I read what others just like me post about their experiences and draw from their comments to develop my own strengths, don't frett to much at this time as you will figure out whats best for you.
 
Thank you all so much for such encouraging words.

It seems like so many on this site cope so well with having epilepsy and if I am in fact diagnosed with it when I see the neurologist, I don't know how long it will take for me to cope. After this panic episode when I wrote this, I calmed down and went about my day. It wasn't the best day either. I tried to get all my errands done but nothing got done pretty much.

I tried to apply for medicaid until I get another job (not having a license impacts that ability since we don't have public transportation in my small town and bikes are too dangerous on these roads) and medicaid said it will be at least 45 days until I find out if I'm approved. Which sucks. I tried to get my daughters shots on the base but they took her ID since it expired and refuse to give her shots until she gets another ID (her Dad has to be there but he lives on the other side of the country) it was just a mess yesterday and it all started with the call. But I handled everything well.

Before the seizures happened though I felt somewhat normal. Fear wise at least. I always had these episodes where everything would get black in front of my eyes, where I would "space out" and wasn't able to talk or anything for a few brief moments and always had blackouts but the doctors were convinced they were a psychological problem so I went about my day not worrying about them. When the tonic clonic ones started everything kind of went tumbling down and I think I went into depression. I have gained a lot of weight since the seizures started, because I just never have the energy to do anything but stay in bed all day. I have panic attacks about having another seizure and it always seems to be at the front of my mind with everything I do, and has been for the year and a half since this all started. Well started for me at least. And I wonder if I will ever feel like the person I felt like before the seizures.

I loved to be outside before. Loved to throw the football around, play sports (not for a team just for fun with my fiance and friends), loved to go on nature walks, loved to go to the beach, loved to do all things outside pretty much. Since the seizures started I always panic wondering what will happen if I have one out there. I feel safe at home in bed so that's all I ever do. Thankfully I have found faith in the recent months and it's helped me to cope so much more, but I still wonder if I'll ever be as care free as I was before it all started.

My fiance and I are getting married in 18 days (I had my second seizure a week after he proposed which put a damper on the engagement excitement) and leaving straight for our cruise, I love to swim but I'm afraid to now. So I'm worried this seizure mess will be at the front of my head the whole time on the cruise and I wont be able to enjoy it. I can't see the neurologist before the cruise to find out what the EEG said since I lost my insurance, which makes it that much more difficult.

But I'll keep everything everyone has said in mind, I just hope to one day be able to cope like y'all on this forum. I just don't know I will ever get there.
 
It does take time to learn how to cope. That is why I suggested you keep things in the day. It is very difficult to achieve, I know, particularly when you're suffering from seizure-phobia. I used to get really terrified of having seizures because I have always lived alone and I used to injure myself terribly. Most scary for me, though, was that waking up moment afterwards when I had no idea what had happened.

Being diagnosed with a chronic condition is one of the most stressful issues to confront but it does become easier as you learn how to cope--if you are willing to learn, and try, and fail, and then learn some more. Perhaps you need some counselling as well, to help you to get in touch with what you are feeling and to help you to process your feelings and thoughts in a healthy way. Maybe look for an epilepsy foundation in your area that can talk to you about your fears before you go away on honeymoon.

I understand the compulsion to stay at home but, for me at least, doings so only increases the chances of having a seizure because it becomes stressful and lonely to cut away at my life. In fact, I have just overcome precisely this problem today--I spent the whole long weekend at home alone--I had tried to make plans but nobody was available. By yesterday I had started to feel seizurish and today when I woke up I couldn't even think of doing anything with the day I felt so bad. I knew from past experience that if I did do something with the day I would feel better by the end of it, so that is what I have done. I took a long walk, did a whole lot of work and am about to go to the library. I feel immensely better--no more aura, no more depression, and as the result of only six hours of activity. There are certainly times when I know it is better to stay at home for the day but I try to make the most of the days when I am healthy--which is the vast majority of my days these days.

There are ways to keep yourself safe beyond holing yourself up indoors. Firstly, you should not scuba dive--that will only be a possibility if your seizures become perfectly controlled. But perhaps your fiancee can stay with you when you swim on your cruise to keep you safe. Where possible, do what you want to and find new ways of staying safe that don't cut out every possible activity that is fun. Of course you can play sports, take nature walks and run and do the vast majority of what you used to enjoy. Firstly, epilepsy is not a life sentence for most people--sometimes people actually get remission from seizure disorders and I believe that the majority of epilepsy suffers get control of their seizures through medication alone. One of my country's top cricket players has epilepsy and it has not altered his career. He makes a fortune playing sports. I'm sure you could google and find a ton of people who are living extremely successfully with epilepsy. Honestly, what is the worst that could happen if you took a ground-level hike on a nature trail? Perhaps you could fall and crack a bone or sprain an ankle? That can happen on your way between the bed and bathroom, so if you really want to prevent seizure injuries you will want to wear a helmet and confine yourself to a wheelchair--or you can take a risk and endure the occasional injury. I've cracked a cheekbone, bit my tongue almost entirely in half and gotten several black eyes, but I'll be damned if I'm going to change the way I live in case that happens again. Not a chance am I donating my entire life to keeping my bones in tact. What for? I don't do stupid things like go to strobe lit discos or scuba dive or free climb up cliff faces, but I do everything that would not kill me if I were to seize whilst doing so.

If you are feeling pessimistic about your prognosis as a result of browsing this forum, keep in mind that I don't come here when my epilepsy is not acting up. This is probably true for many others. I have gone through years on end not needing a forum like this and thus not visiting one. I thus suspect that most of the forum members here are struggling with either treatment or seizures. The others are out enjoying their lives and not thinking about seizures at all. As someone who is not entirely controlled with medication, I can tell you that epilepsy symptoms, thoughts and feelings only take up about 3% of my life--and believe me, I have had problems finding treatment and control.


I am not referring to a source but if memory serves me, some 60% of seizure sufferers have full control through medication. If medication doesn't help, there is surgery and VNS.

There is very little normality in the world, so I found it best to throw that word away. I have one friend who is entirely blind, another with cerebral palsy, another with ME and another with severe chronic depression. They are all 'normal,' as am I. The point I'm making is that there simply is no such thing as normal. And I am being honest when I say that I would rather have epilepsy than any of the conditions my friends have. Mine is highly treatable and no longer influences most of my life. Those conditions I've listed are difficult to treat, if at all, and they look, to me, to be far worse than what I go through. Sure, there are things I have to do without--I can't drive or drink or scuba dive but hell, I can bungee jump, go snorkeling, live by the beach, spend car insurance cash on more entertaining endeavours and still get everywhere I wish at low expense. I have become used to not driving, and I think about what I can do rather than what I can't. If you are keeping your life absent of the things you can do, you are letting your seizures steal away your life. That is not necessary at all. Thousands of epilepsy patients live marvelous lives. Again, this is not a death sentence, or a sentence to spend the rest of your life in bed, inactive and bored.
 
Thank you Kirsten! I really appreciate your post.

After reading it, I feel like I'm throwing myself a pitty party and that's not what I want at all. I want to be happy and have fun and enjoy life. My fears always get the best of me though and stop that. But I let them, I let my fear take control and I don't do anything about it.

I've never had a broken bone (apart from my collar bone as a baby) and I don't ever want to have one. But to risk a broken bone to be able to go and do the things I want to do does seem like a fair risk. I just have to do it. I've let it take away everything I enjoy about life. I've become a not so great mom in the midst of it, always consumed with the thoughts and fears that I never take my daughter outside to play (always afraid "what if I have a seizure and someone snatches her up in the midst of it?") I spend all my time online researching seizures, I spend all my time in bed, I don't play anymore really, the depression and fear has just made me a miserable person. I hate that.

Life is beautiful but my life has become so fearful that I do nothing, I show no love for life and I might as well be sleeping or something, I just don't do anything. I hate that.

So today I think (gaining from the inspiration of your post) I'll go to the beach with my daughter today. My fiance has the day off. I think we will take the dogs and my daughter and go to the beach since it will be in the 70s today. We wont be swimming but I need some sun, that's for sure. Maybe I'll even bring a football or soccer ball. Everytime I go to the beach I get anxious and want to leave right away. I'll try to ignore the uncomfortable fearful feelings and just enjoy the weather and my small family.

I just want to go back to normal, I'm the one letting it impact my life. I wont try to rush into "feeling normal" (and I do understand what you mean by normal, I guess for me I just mean normal me) but I gotta start somewhere. Start small maybe and gradually try to get back to the way I was.

I didn't know you could still go snorkeling, that's great. I'll be worried but with my fiance right by my side, maybe we can have fun on our honeymoon :)
 
I'm really glad you're going to go to the beach. It's great to live by the coast. I do, too. I couldn't take on my day with many grand intentions. I just began by taking a walk, telling myself I'd go to bed afterwards if I needed to. The I came back and decided to just write one article, and that led to three more. Small chunks are so much easier and they lead to more chunks, or sometimes none but at least there was that one.

I've never completely broken a bone, but my cracked cheekbone wasn't all that bad. It was about five percent as painful as surgical pain, which is nothing, really. I also felt rather proud of my black eye, which was in the pattern of a carpet weave. It was a source of many jokes. I had a boyfriend then and every time someone asked what had happened one of us would say, "Well...we had this fight..."

Be patient with yourself and don't come down hard on yourself either--I'm pretty certain that we all had that terrible fear in the beginning and you are in the beginning. Courage is feeling the fear and doing it anyway, except if its dum--I'm not about to take on the Otter Trail that leads you along the edge of a giant cliff path. But I will go to the beach--definitely.
 
Is there ever a point where you stop being afraid? Where the seizures aren't at the front of your mind? Some people are telling me that cruises have terrible medical facilities and that I shouldn't go on a cruise considering the circumstances. I don't know what to think about that. It's only a 4 day cruise and I want to enjoy it. I'm going to try and get in contact with my neuro and see if there is anything that can be done to get me in, any payment plan or anything so that we can get everything started in the treatment. But when you start medications, does it make the seizures worse if it's not a match for you? I'm afraid to start and have them make things worse. And I don't like taking medication and haven't since the start of the summer, the neuro said if I start medication I will be on it for life. I don't like medication. My biggest fear though is the side effects and if they will make me worse (in regards to medication)
 
Amazing post Kristen! And I'm so glad you guys connected, and that you're going out today! I'm coming back and reading that post myself on my off days!

I just did want to say, it's important to be strong and look for the positives, but don't forget that it's okay to cry too! I had a couple months of randomly crying, pity party's. And I really appreciated people in this forum giving me permission to feel that way, because before that I felt like an idiot because it wasn't like I was dying or the world was ending. But man, was my world turned upside down. And that's worth crying over, now and again.

It's amazing you're taking the steps to get back out and actually enjoying again! Have an incredible day with your family!
 
Yes, Katie, I totally agree with you about the crying and, for what ever reason, we females often find it difficult to give ourselves permission to feel and to believe that our emotions are appropriate.

Girlwithadog, I am seldom afraid of what my epilepsy might bring. When people have serious phobias, of snakes, say, some therapists desensitise them to the fear by exposing them to pictures of snakes, then snakes in enclosed habitats, then snakes up close and personal. In a similar way, having many seizures desensitised me to the abject terror of them, but at the same time it showed me the worst things that could happen as a result of seizures i.e. I could go into status and land up in hospital, I could hurt myself, I could go out in a public place. Somehow, being aware of the worst that could happen reduces the fear amazingly well for me--so well that now, when I do feel fear about anything at all, I ask myself what the worst thing is that could happen and I answer that question. Fear of the unknown is so much more terrifying than fear of the worst thing that could happen. Most of the time, the worst that could happen is not nearly as bad as what my fear of the unknown seemed to indicate.

There are many medications for epilepsy, which creates plenty of room for searching for those with side effects you're willing to tolerate. As I mentioned before, there are now other options such as VNS and surgery, which have demonstrated some amazing results for some kinds of epilepsy. I am currently on the last anticonvulsant available to me, having had horrible reactions to the rest. If this one doesn't pan out, I'll try VNS and if that doesn't work, I'll do surgery. Again, it's a journey you can only take in steps. There is absolutely no way of knowing whether you're going to have problems with medications. After a month or two, the grogginess that comes with many of these meds goes away. You might find that you land on a perfect medication first time round. You might even find that your medication comes with benefits--it might help you sleep better, feel calmer and have more stable emotions. You just can't know until you get there. Some medications will list in the package inserts that they could worsen seizures before they get better but I have never experienced that at all. If they did make you worse over the long term, you would change to something else that didn't do that. If the side effects don't fit with what you can live with, you will change to something else. Finding meds is a more complicated journey towards finding the best fit for you. You might need to try one, and you might need to try five, and you might need to try combinations.

Only a doctor can tell you if it's a good idea to go on the cruise. I have no clue what sort of medical provisions they have on a ship. What I do know is that I have come out the other side of tons of seizures without medical support at all. Twice or three times I have needed to be hospitalised and put on a drip because I went into status but I believe that is a fairly rare occurrence. I am pretty sure that most of us do not seek medical attention beyond informing our neurologists when we have seizures unless those seizures don't stop in good time, or increase in frequency.

Are you aware that some doctors are willing to bend the rules to make room for patients who aren't covered by insurance? Some have sliding scales that are proportionate to your earnings so that they are more affordable. A doctor once gave me three consultations over three months while I was in the waiting zone of my medical aid, and then charged them after the coverage came into effect. It's not exactly the honest way to handle it but some doctors do see it as an ethical way of doing things, since they put the patient's welfare ahead of the medical insurer's. Besides that, have you investigated your public health care choices?

Basically, I don't want to advise you about whether or not to take the cruise because I'm not equipped to, but I will suggest that you phone them and ask them what they have in place for epilepsy patients and patients in general. I also suggest that you do what you can to secure a neurologist's consultation sooner by looking into sliding scale and even pro bono consultations. You do want to have a fantastic honeymoon, after all. This is not any old cruise we're talking about.
 
Is there ever a point where you stop being afraid? Where the seizures aren't at the front of your mind?
Yes, it's happened for me. I'm sure that it helps that my seizures have responded to medication and have been controlled for a while now. Last year I went on boat-based trip to the Galapagos. Snorkeled, swam, hiked, no worries. Even when I was still having tonic-clonics, I did kinda get used to them. I still hated them -- they made me sore and sad -- but I wasn't embarrassed if I had them in public, just annoyed if someone called the EMTs.
 
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