epilepsy is now a disease you can outgrow

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I'm now debating my whole outlook as far as epilepsy is concerned! I'm not sure if you can ever guarantee someone that they will never have another seizure

No one can ever guarantee a person with epilepsy that they will out grow it or that it will come back again. :agree:

My sister quit having seizures when she was 16. When she turned 60 years of age it came back worse than she had it as a child. :dontknow:
 
Hey Jen,

I think Ruth was talking about Alzheimers and the stages.

:piano: :pop:

She did say that "the difference between a disease and a disorder condition is that you die from a disease"

Jen was right, you don't always die from a disease.
 
That's right you do not always die from a disease.

I did some research and found three links:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/disorder_index.htm#E

This is from the government, it says that it is a disorder. Press on E, look under epilepsy and you will find that it is a disorder and not a disease.

The second link is from the Epilepsy Foundation. They keep up-to-date on definitions.
http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/about-epilepsy-basics

About Epilepsy:the Basics

Epilepsy is a condition of the brain causing seizures.

This link is from the Mayo Clinic. They say that epilepsy is a condition:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/index?letter=E

Look under E for epilepsy.
 
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Kirsten, did you read the whole article?

It has only one Author. One person changed the meaning from disorder,condition to disease. In the article that one person changed the what epilepsy is.

I do have seizures with my epilepsy. I am talking strictly about epilepsy and seizures.

There is a distinction between different types of seizures and causes. They have always made that distinction, it is nothing new.
 
Yes, Ruth, I read both papers. I think it was a week ago, though, so my mind is not so fresh on it. I do remember that they changed epilepsy's classification from disorder to disease. I'm now not too sure about what you're referring to about him changing the definition of what epilepsy is. You quoted "seizures and epilepsy are not the same," which is true. What is it you disagree with?
 
The other side of the coin:

This change in definition was Authored by Robert S. Fisher MD PhD from condition, disorder to disease. One and only one person changed the definition, the ILAE accepted it.

Here is the link:

http://www.epilepsy.com/article/2014/4/revised-definition-epilepsy

It contradicts what epilepsy is.

That article says that the term epilepsy is now a "disease" and this definition was generated by a task force.

http://www.epilepsy.com/article/2014/4/revised-definition-epilepsy

Seizures and epilepsy are not the same. An epileptic seizure is a transient occurrence of signs and/or symptoms due to abnormal excessive or synchronous neuronal activity in the brain. Epilepsy is a disease characterized by an enduring predisposition to generate epileptic seizures and by the neurobiological, cognitive, psychological, and social consequences of this condition. Translation: a seizure is an event and epilepsy is the disease involving recurrent unprovoked seizures.

The above definitions were created in a document generated by a task force of the International League Against Epilepsy (ILAE) in 2005. The definitions were conceptual, (theoretical) and not sufficiently detailed to indicate in individual cases whether a person did or did not have epilepsy. Therefore, the ILAE commissioned a second task force to develop a practical (operational) definition of epilepsy, designed for use by doctors and patients. The results of several years of deliberations on this issue have now been published (Fisher RS et al. A practical clinical definition of epilepsy, Epilepsia 2014; 55:475-482) and adopted as a position of the ILAE.

Where does it say one person changed the definition?
 
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