Frustration with hospitals

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Hi guys,

I thought I would update some folk on my girlfriend but also vent my frustration at the hospital.

Long story short, Kate had a bunch of T/C seizures last Wednesday night. I called an ambulance as I felt it was too many in too short a time.

Cut to Friday and Kate is still not herself. Saying odd things, thinking she was somewhere she wasn't etc etc which as far as I understand can be quite normal after such severe episodes.

Based on questioning Kate, while she was obviously still confused, they came to the conclusion that it was alcohol that had triggered the seizures. Apparently Kate had told them she had been drinking a decent amount the weekend before (21st/22nd April). They went on this information. I've only just found out today about this. I'm pissed off that they made their conclusion based on info from an obviously confused person.

Kate actually hadn't had anything to drink since the week before (13th/14th April). Even then she hadn't wiped herself out or anything. It was a few wines with her mother.

I do realise that alcohol can be a trigger for some but after 4 years we don't believe it's a major factor.

Anywho, after sitting in with the doctors as they spoke to Kate, I noticed a disturbing thing. They were no longer even evaluating her epilepsy anymore, they were evaluating her mental state.

Now the day or two after the episodes she definitely was not herself. Acting kind of strange sometimes and saying odd things but I considered the bunch of prior seizures a contributing factor.

The doctor that was there today essentially ignored me when I mentioned Catamenial Epilepsy and was purely talking about the Phsychiatric team evaluating her before she can leave.

They were all prepared to let her walk out of there with no progress on her Epilepsy and on the same medication as when she went in. Where the hell would that have gotten us???

All of this without one person making a call to me or Kates mother about anything. How can they base anything on what a person who is clearly all over the place says?

That seems so negligent to me.

Anyway, I've spoken to the nurse that is looking after Kate and explained this all too her. She knew what Catamenial Epilepsy was and could completely understand why I was concerned.

So now I am awaiting a call from either the Psych team or her doctor in the hopes of clarifying everything. I have no intention of having Kate come out of a week in hospital with the cause being alcohol that she never had and doctors relying on information from someone that thinks they are in a workplace they were in 6 years ago. C'mon!

Bloody doctors lol

I should also add that Kate is now much better. She knows where she is, why she is there and what is happening. Just some memory problems. She actually asked the doctor while I was there if it was normal to have these memory problems after seizures, guess what his answer was........"No" :?:
 
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aw this is awful :(

i know all to well what its like to be "mis-treated" by drs and hospital :( ... im really sorry your having to go through this ... if they do happen to keep the reason for it as "alchol" you can actually request for that to be removed from her record if you have a supporting reason why ... which you have she didnt have any ...

oh this is so frustrating how she is being treat i feel angry thinking oabout it

where are you from ??

take care and keep us updated
love jade x
 
i know all to well what its like to be "mis-treated" by drs and hospital :( ... im really sorry your having to go through this ... if they do happen to keep the reason for it as "alchol" you can actually request for that to be removed from her record if you have a supporting reason why ... which you have she didnt have any ...

oh this is so frustrating how she is being treat i feel angry thinking oabout it

where are you from ??

take care and keep us updated
love jade x


Hi Jade,
I am not going to allow this to put be down as alcohol being the cause! I will ask for a new doctor before that happens if this guy doesn't want to budge. He looked at me like I was trying to cover something up when I was trying to correct him. I mean geez, if alcohol was a major trigger for Kate, that would actually be a good thing. We would know how to avoid a repeat so why would I lie about anything???

We are in Brisbane, Australia and in the public health system which I must say I am so damn grateful for after reading some horrible scenarios on this forum that some of our American friends find themselves in.

I did have to build up the courage to start questioning the doctors as I knew I would get a bit of the "I'm the doctor and I'm right" type attitude, which I can understand but geez at least take what I have to say on board and not just disregard it completely.

I'm guessing I've probably inadvertently extended Kates stay in hospital but if it means a correct diagnosis or at least a new avenue for us to explore (progesterone cream maybe) then it is worth it.
 
it is hard to get the right attitude toward doctors ... you need one so you dont get walked over but not so much of one they get annoyed

im in england and thankful to for the nhs but it does annoy me sometimes ...
yeh some of my american friends have been really struggling :( too its not nice

we even if you have extended her stay like you said maybe its best and hopefully she will get the help she needs and the right help :)

i didnt know australia had a health system :) thats good then .. what time is it out there now then ? spose your time diff is quite big from here
 
Close to a 12 hour difference I think. 5:30pm Monday as I post this.

Kate is actually loving the food and attention in there lol just bored and misses the dogs....and me I guess lol
 
Aarggh! Aaron, I'm sorry you and Kate have to deal with this. I never understand why hospitals ask questions and give instructions to people who they know to be confused from seizure activity. I'm glad you've been persistent about getting the facts straight. Kate's lucky to have you to advocate for her.
 
Progress!

When visiting Kate today she mentioned that the doctor had suggested going on the pill may help with the fact she is having clusters of seizures around "that time of the month". That means they must have agreed with me that this could be a case of Catamenial Epilepsy.

The psych team has also concluded that she wasn't manic or anything and her behaviour was a result of the seizures.

Geez I am glad I did their job for them and called them to express my concerns.

They are now just either waiting to do or waiting for the results of an ultrasound and an MPS.

Anyone know how an ultrasound is related or what an MPS is? lol

She will most likely be out tomorrow. The plan of attack is to then see her GP and try to get in earlier to see her neurologist and get their take on the fact her hormones could be triggering these events and what our best course of action may be.
 
I think the MPS test is probably a Myocardial Perfusion Scan -- it tests how well the heart is pumping, especially when it's stressed. Some seizure stuff can be made worse by cardiac issues, so perhaps that's why they're doing that test. It can't hurt to call and find out though. Ultrasound is used for all sorts of things, so it depends where they are using it. They could also be examining her heart with it.

if they put her on the pill, it should ideally be the progesterone-based version that doesn't have any estrogen (since high levels of estrogen are what can trigger catamenial seizures).
 
For what it's worth, I'm sorry. When I had my first seizure in 2010, I was at home, taking a nap (I had the flu). My mother lives with me, and she still describes that day as terrifying (she called the ambulance). At the ER, the on-call neurologist couldn't even be bothered to come in, no tests were performed...they just gave me a prescription for Dilantin and sent me home.
Two days later, I could barely walk or talk and I knew it was the Dilatin (I'm very astute when it comes to my body and how it reacts to things)..went back to the ER and they attributed it to "general malaise".
It wasn't until two weeks later when my GP ordered an MRI and got me a referral to a neurologist that I finally found out what was going on and got my E diagnosis. Sadly, we have to fight and be our own advocates when it comes to patient care.
 
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