I don't understand how I got epilepsy

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I'm confused...when I was young I was perfectly healthy and then I turned 16 and WHAM! I got hit. Epilepsy, bi-polar and fibromyalgia, all at the same time. Now epilepsy doesn't run in the family and I wasn't injured in anyway, I didn't get really sick. So I sit and wonder " how did I get this?". My doctors won't explain that part to me, all they want to concentrate on is keeping me seizure-free...but I still want to know. Is this a birth defect or something like that that can hide undetected for years? I don't know much about this even though I've had it for 11 yrs now, most of this time I've been worrying about when the next one would be. Now I'm doing better so if possible I'd like some answers. :?
 
Hi bunkers, welcome to the forums! I've been away on business for a while, so forgive my tardiness.

I think that before determining "how did I get this?", it may useful to fully understand "what is the mechanism driving the epilepsy?". Some people can pinpoint specific trauma to the brain that caused scar tissue which is attributed to causing their seizures. Others don't have apparent scar tissue. There are so many different types of seizures and epilepsy. I'm sure the causes must vary greatly as well.
 
How'd I get this?

I had someone once tell me that I got mine from an injury to my spinal chord. The only injury that I actually remember is falling on my butt (hitting my skate) at the rink when I was about 12. otherwise, mine is hereditary.
 
I am 41 and have just been diagnosed with epilepsy. I have never had a head injury or any major illness. Epilepsy does not run in my family. I am with you, I want to know how I got this as well. I have had CAT scans,EEGs all kinds of blood work and no one can give me any answers. I was told at 23 when I had a miscarriage that I was having anexiety attacks wich now I am finding out were mild seizures all this time. If anyone has any answers or advice for me I would love to hear it. I am new to all this and have recently had three grand mal(tonic Clonic) seizures and the last one was just last Friday. I am having so much muscle pain I can't use my left arm. My husband has been having to help me dress and shower. Please help!!
 
In the lecture halls in my school the desks had these marble surfaces. Well, one day, for whatever reason, I fainted, and when I fainted, I slammed my head up on the marble part of the desk as hard as I possibly could, and then fell on the floor, slamming my head once again on the hard tiled floor. This got me a trip to the ER. The seizures started shortly after this. I have no memory of falling, so I had to rely on eye witness account to learn this. I'm fairly certain this is what caused my epilepsy.

Honestly, I kind of wish I didn't know... When my E is getting rough, I sometimes think about how easily it could have been avoided. If I had been sitting in a different position before I fainted... If I had not come to school that day... If I had taken a different class, causing me to never end up in that class in the first place... It can drive you insane.
 
Hi, Bunkers,

Welcome!

I understand your need to know the reason you have seizures. I wanted to know, too. Still do. I've read that up to 50% of epilepsy is idiopathic. In other words, they don't know the cause.

Heredity and multiple small head injuries are suspects for my seizures, but there's no way to tell for sure.

Seizures, Fibromyalgia, and Bi-polar can be comorbid (happen together). I wonder about a problem with GABA receptors, in general with all three conditions. GABA receptors are involved in all three, and some of the medications for all three involve GABA receptors.

Have you bumped your head a few times or been tackled by friends and thought it was no big deal? Research on soldiers and football players have shown that multiple small head injuries (bumps) can be as serious as one big head injury. The head injuries may not show up on an MRI or CT scan because it can be at the molecular level. The only way it can be seen is with sometimes a PET scan, or after death (autopsy with a good microscope).

Please hang in there. The fact that you were put on meds FAST for your seizures increases the chance that they'll be under control.

Will you let us know how you are doing?
 
Hi treelo --

My grand mals came out of nowhere when I was 35. No family history either. From what I've learned here at CWE, I can guess at some of the secondary triggers, but I don't think I'll ever know for sure why I have a lower seizure threshold.

It can definitely help to take a close look at what might have been the last "push" that put you over your seizure threshold -- it could have been hormones, or something about your diet or metabolism, it can be low blood pressure or low blood sugar or fatigue or a combination of any or all of the above. It's possible that the seizures that occurred around the time of your miscarriage were hormonally-related (high or fluctuating levels of estrogen, and low levels of progesterone can be seizure triggers). You might ant to keep a journal tracking your seizures and other physiological details to see if there is any pattern -- time of day? time of the month? right after exercise? right after a long stressful day? right after eating Chinese Food? -- there may or may not be a clue there to help you identify the things that might lower your seizure threshold.
 
Hi Bunkers. I noticed you first posted 5 years ago & have received a few recent replies, but there hasn't been anything more from you. How are you doing now? Is your epilepsy under control now? Is is your fibro & bi-polar? Are those ailments responding to treatment? Endless is right - some medications are used to treat all three ailments. And in many cases, there is no known cause for epilepsy.

Myself, I started having grand mals when I was a year old - obviously not a hormone issue, not food related, not injury related, not stress, no other health problems to trigger it. Along with the grand mals, I had absence seizures. The grand mals stopped by the time I was 6 years old & the absence seizures seemed to stop a few years later. When I was 18, I started having complex partials (although I didn't know what they were until just recently). They continued getting worse over the years.

In my mid-20's, I was diagnosed with fibro. A couple years later CFIDS was added. When I was 30, I was diagnose with bi-polar. Shortly after that, I started losing consciousness & my neuro/psych ran an eeg & diagnosed me with "seizure disorder", but didn't explain anything about it. I didn't think much about it since he didn't make a big deal about it & never discussed it anymore. A few years later, another eeg showe active seizures & my meds were changed. Here again, the meds used for bi-polar are the same as the ones for epilepsy & he only talked to me about the bi-polar. Eventually, he went to work at a psych hospital & didn't take outpatients any more. I started seeing a new psych & forgot about the "seizure disorder". Then I had to go off all my meds because of no insurance. Within a year I stated having strange things happen. My PCP thought muscles spasms, but relaxers didn't work. New symptoms started & she suspected seizures & sent me to another neuro. By then I had insurance again. He confirmed "seizure disorder", but still didn't explain what was going on. So I started doing research, learned "seizure disorder" is the preferred term because of the stigma with the word epilepsy. I was also able to learn what types of seizures I have (5 types). I sat down with my neuro & he confirmed everything.

Well after I started having seizures, my mother also developed seizures, although none of her doctors have given a written diagnosis because she would lose her driving privileges. My mother was also diagnosed with fibro a number of years after I was. She also has sjogren's disease & major depression.

So, were my epilepsy, fibro & bi-polar inherited? That I don't know. It's possible that I inherited thoses genes & they manifested themselves in me before they did in her. As far as we know, there are no ancestors that had epilepsy. But it really doesn't matter how we got epilepsy. The important thing now is to get it treated properly & get the seizures under control. For some people that is fairly easy as they respond well to medication & have no side effects. Unfortunately for me, it is not easy to treat anything. CFIDS (chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome) is an immune disorder & it causes it's victims to be resistant to medication or to have high sensitivity/allergy to mediciation. Such is my problem. I've been on about every epilepsy/bipolar/fibro med there is & am allergic to almost every one. At this moment, I'm on a brand new one for ep & a brand new one for fibro. I don't know if I will be able to stay on them as I started to show some reactions after 2 weeks. But I'm trying to tough it out.

So my advice is don't worry about HOW you got epilepsy, fibro & bipolar. Focus on treating them & getting them under control. I sincerely hope that in the past 5 years since you posted that you have been able to acheive this. And for others that read this, I give the same advise - focus on getting better, not on the past, on what might have been or what might have caused it. It's behind you now. Go forward & conquer! And for those of you like me, who don't respond to treatment, really to all of us, let's just hang in there!

Shelia
 
sbncmo,

You mentioned your doctor thought muscle spasms before you were finally diagnosed correctly. Can you describe them?

I had spasms in my upper back for years, and they'd rip stuff out in my back and cause even more pain. My epi says it isn't seizures. But the AEDs made them go away. So I'm curious if anybody else in here has experienced the same thing.
 
Hi Endless. I started a new post on my "muscle spasms", but I don't know if you read it. I'm kind of going back on my previous posts to check on any comments.

Well, when my doctor thought I was having muscles spasms, my entire body would become rigid & I felt like my body was going to explode. They were very painful. That's not to say the muscle spasms aren't painful, but these sensations were very different. I found out they are tonic seizures. Is the exploding sensation similar to your back muscle spasms?
 
sbncmo - I am curious... you say that your seizures began at the age of 1, and you conclude that it is not food related. How do you know so?

Many of the other disorders / illnesses that both you and your mother are diagnosed with can be helped by making nutritional changes. Sensitivites to certain foods / proteins , can cause many of these symptoms. This can run in families.
 
Hi Robin, I can't be 100% my problems aren't food related. At a year old, my mother was still nursing me. I know foods are passed on through a mothers milk. If I ate a certain food while nursing my son, it would affect him. As far as food growing up, we lived on a farm & everything was natural. After getting married, I tried to continue cooking in the healthy way I had learned as a teenager as my father had a major heart attack & I had to learn to cook differently. Even now I don't fry anything.

I had allergy tests run a few years ago - found out I'm allergic to dairy (which I already knew), shellfish, beef, corn (again I already knew that), bell peppers & a number of other foods (along with a number of plants, trees & chemicals). Any of these foods make me very sick, so I avoid all of them. Our meals are simple - chicken or pork loin, rice & vegetables for dinner. (Sounds boring having the same thing every day, but my husband doesn't mind.) My husband takes care of his breakfast & lunch. My breakfast is altering between eggs, bagels and oatmeal, along with an apple or orange. My lunches aren't much. Most of the time I don't feel like eating much - maybe some fruit or salad. I don't know what I could be eating that would be wrong or would affect my health problems. How do I find out what foods affect ep & other illnesses?

Shelia
 
I'm right there with you Bunkers. About 7 years ago when I was 25 I had a grand mal out of no were. I had gone to a concert and luckily spent the night at my boyfriends house. I woke him up in the middle of the night with the bed shaking like crazy. I was rushed to the hospital where they had to put me in a coma inorder to make the seizures stop. If I hadn't been at his house that night I know I would have been dead.

When the neuro looked to see if I would be eligable for surgery he said that I wasn't because I have "damaged" spots on both sides of my brain. They still have no idea where it came from. I don't do drugs and I probably didn't even drink at the concert because it's close to $10 for a beer, and I'm too cheap to pay that.

It's still a mystery. Good luck!
 
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