who lives in a medical marijuana state?

[petero]

not including the price of registration etc., how much does it cost?

 

[Nakamova]

They only just passed the referendum here in Massachusetts. The details are still to be worked out.

 

[Cint]

I'm in Colorado, and as you know mj, was just legalized not only for medical reasons but personal pleasure. According to this to this website: http://www.priceofweed.com/, here in CO, it costs $255.00 an oz. for high quality. I wouldn't know personally, I didn't vote for it.

 

[CathyAnn31]

$255.00 an ounce of good stuff is a great price. For a decent quarter oz around here its about $200 depending where you go. Of course there's always mexican schwag for $50 but I'd rather go without then smoke that stuff.

I wonder how many plants you're allowed to grow at a time, in Colorado. Move Peter, then open a collective, lol.

 

[tinathesingergirl]

personally....It was on my ballot here in florida and I do belive it passed here in Florida in ammedments. I do think it needs more regulations as far as growing and delivery method. I personally feel on the matter that as ling as you have a script from your doctor and you can get it from a regular pharmacy NOT OTC! You must have a script for it like any other controlled substance what's the issue maybe make it like percoset where you have to go to the doctor's office where you have to go to the doc's office to pick up the script personally? I beleive in it for med purposes not for rec purposes. I beleive the ammendment in WA state that passed was for rec purposes so I was unsure of wordage.

 

[tinathesingergirl]

I also think just to add my two cents that most people that if they were to use it for a medical purpose would not be using it excess like a rec user in most cases. I personally would not use it unless it was a drug of last result and nothing else seemed to be working.

 

[CathyAnn31]

Tina- you do know that alcohol is much more dangerous then marijuana, right? Should folks need a script for their bottle of wine?

Assuming a recreational user uses more mj then a patient/card holder is simply your opinion. I'm a recreational user and a few card holding patients I know in Cali smoke wayyy more then me. If I was in a state where mmj was legal under state law, my epilepsy entitles me to a mj script. For those of us who are not, we just choose to self-medicate.

By reading this forum I read post after post of complaints about med side effects. If there wasn't such a social stigma about mj use, I bet it would be beneficial to many and more people would be apt to give it a try.

As state after state legalizes it for medical (or even recreational!) use, I hope the stigma and stereotyping begain to go away. With all the states allowing mj it shows it must be good for something.

Now, to work on the federal government. That' a whole other story. Me thinks it has a lot to do with the big pharma companies and I could go on and on.

 

[Rae1889]

marijauna is "decriminalized" here in manitoba. essentially that means they wont do anything if you only have enough for personal use on you. MJ is about $10 a gram here. not sure what it is for ounces, and then of course you get a break on the more you buy. I know that 10 grams costs $70. so you buy 7, get 3 free lol! I have no idea how many ounces things aare

 

[Cint]

By reading this forum I read post after post of complaints about med side effects. If there wasn't such a social stigma about mj use, I bet it would be beneficial to many and more people would be apt to give it a try.

As state after state legalizes it for medical (or even recreational!) use, I hope the stigma and stereotyping begain to go away. With all the states allowing mj it shows it must be good for something.

There doesn't seem to be that much of a social stigma about pot use here in Colorado, as the majority voted for it's recreational use as well as medicinal purposes. Years ago, before I had E, I did try it off and on, but I never found it to be beneficial in any way. For me, it had just as many side effects as some of the AED's; headaches, not remembering things, visual disturbances, etc. And the smell of pot now makes me sick to my stomach. Plus people get just as loud and obnoxious when "high" on pot as they do when drinking.

Also, pot can block the release of the neurotransmitters in the hippocampus, research has shown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis#Memory_and_learning

Neurological effects
The areas of the brain where cannabinoid receptors are most prevalently located are consistent with the behavioral effects produced by cannabinoids.
Most notably, the two areas of motor control and memory are where the effects of cannabis are directly and irrefutably evident. Cannabinoids, depending on the dose, inhibit the transmission of neural signals through the basal ganglia and cerebellum. At lower doses, cannabinoids seem to stimulate locomotion while greater doses inhibit it, most commonly manifested by lack of steadiness (body sway and hand steadiness) in motor tasks that require a lot of attention. Other brain regions, like the cortex, the cerebellum, and the neural pathway from cortex to striatum, are also involved in the control of movement and contain abundant cannabinoid receptors, indicating their possible involvement as well.

Experiments on animal and human tissue have demonstrated a disruption of short-term memory formation, which is consistent with the abundance of CB1 receptors on the hippocampus, the region of the brain most closely associated with memory. Cannabinoids inhibit the release of several neurotransmitters in the hippocampus such as acetylcholine, norepinephrine, and glutamate, resulting in a major decrease in neuronal activity in that region. This decrease in activity resembles a "temporary hippocampal lesion."

BTW, my seizures stem from deep in my hippocampus, so pot definitely won't do me any good.

Now, to work on the federal government. That' a whole other story. Me thinks it has a lot to do with the big pharma companies and I could go on and on.

:agree: The pharmaceuticals want it all.

 

[Cint]

Oh, I forgot to mention. At least pot will be good for the revenue. That is what folks here in Colorado are saying. How about a Rocky Mountain High?!

 

[no.guru]

Not sure how pharmaceutical companies qualify as opposition. If anything, they stand to win big with widespread legalization or decriminalization.

Police departments (and their illegal property seizures), the DEA, and the drug dealers themselves - all would stop or be scaled back with legalization. They're not going quietly,

petero, I'm not in one of these states although I do know a cancer patient here who has been prescribed mj in pill form.

 

[no.guru]

Have to share this: Meanwhile in Colorado ...

 

[petero]

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/22/obama-administration-speaks-out-on-marij

In his interview with 60 Minutes , U.S. Deputy Attorney General James Cole (See Jacob Sullum on Cole's notorious medical marijuana memo) had this exchange with CBS' Steve Kroft:

James Cole: Our focus is really on keeping it away from children. Our focus is keeping it out of the hands of organized crime. Our focus is making sure that people aren't, through marijuana dispensaries, using it as a pretext to do large-scale interstate drug dealing. These are the areas where we're really trying to focus.

Steve Kroft: So the message is, if you're licensed in the state of Colorado and you follow the law, then you should be okay.

James Cole: Each case is going to rise and fall on its own unique facts. Any of that is still in violation of the Controlled Substances Act of the federal law. We're not interested in bothering people who are sick and are using it in the recommendation of a doctor. We are concerned with people who are using it as a pretext to become large-scale drug dealers.

 

[Dutch mom]

In The Netherlands medical marijuana costs about half the price of marijuana sold in coffee shops for recreative use because it is not allowed to make a commercial profit from the sale of it. Medical marijuana is grown under supervision of the government and one can only get it prescribed by a doctor for specific diseases and purposes.

In 2011 avarage prices of recreative marijuana sold in Dutch coffee shops were about 8.30 euro a gram for weed grown in The Netherlands and about 4.25 euros for imported weed. Imported hash was sold for about 8 euros a gram. Reference: 1 euro = 1.27 US dollars

 

[no.guru]

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/22/obama-administration-speaks-out-on-marij

From the article:

If history is any guide, we'll see more federal raids in Colorado and Washington if recreational marijuana is legalized, because we'll most definitely see more "large-scale drug dealing," AKA state-legal businesses selling to consumers in an open, state-legal market.

Not surprising. Have to wonder how many states will pass similar laws in the future, and at what point states' rights matter again.

 

[tinathesingergirl]

Cathy Ann, Just so you know I actually voted for the ammendment to pass here in Florida. I just think it needs more serious thought. I have no problems with people using it recreationaly or as a medicational drug. In fact I think it could be used for quite a few uses more proactively than some other medications currently on the market today. It just needs more serious study. I do think part of the problem is with the current quality of the product there is no way to "guanrantee" quality across the board as far as price is considered and that worries me a bit.

Tina

 

[Rocky Mountain Gemini]

In CO here, weed is going for under $200/oz for top shelf stuff. The dispensary I go to has top shelf stuff for $175. and I see others advertise for $155. prices have definitely crashed.

As far as pot helping with epilepsy, I personally have my doubts. When I started having seizures again 3 years ago (had them as a child) I was smoking pot just about 24/7. So like I said I have my doubts how much it helps with epilepsy. Maybe I wasn't smoking the right kind, I don't know. Never really bothered to research it.

One can grow 6 plants legally with an MMJ card. If you like to garden, you'd love growing pot.

 

[tinathesingergirl]

I dont think I would personally like to grow it and I don't think it would personally help epilepsy patients but for other issues like cancer or things like chronic pain where nothing else is helping it could perhaps be beneficial but i do think it needs to be dispensed in amounts by someone who knows what they are doing it does need to be regulated in some sort of matter.

 

[MaeDae]

all to scary for me. I cant imagine what will happen if it became a legal recreational drug! I would never go to the dr's again, probably wouldnt drive either. Tho it may mellow alot of folks or even aid in ailments, but damn if I wanna be on the road, hospital, or anywhere where the emergency network can use. I pass you can just leave me where I lay. It does alter the thinking process and seeing process. You know, that some idiot somewhere will enhance it. UP in Smoke. Cheech and Chong? OMG. I can't imagine it. If we cant controll guns how in the heck are we going to control mj? It will without a doubt end up in the wrong hands not that its not already! but to legalize it? I gotta think more on the pro's (none yet, other than medical) before I say how I really feel! Not that how I feel matters......cause I dont vote!

 

[Cint]

It does alter the thinking process and seeing process.

Precisely my point earlier!! Research has shown that it does damage the hippocampus, the area for memory and reasoning.

You know, that some idiot somewhere will enhance it. UP in Smoke. Cheech and Chong? OMG. I can't imagine it. If we cant controll guns how in the heck are we going to control mj? It will without a doubt end up in the wrong hands not that its not already! but to legalize it?

The week before the election, I was at an indoor concert with my sister, and shortly after the featured band came on stage, some fool just down the row from where we were seated, decided he could light up his joint. And it wasn't legal yet here in Colorado. How the hell can they smoke pot indoors but not cigarettes? That junk gave me a miserable headache for the rest of the evening. Are folks gonna be considerate of others now that it is "legal" here in Colorado? I doubt it.

I gotta think more on the pro's (none yet, other than medical) before I say how I really feel! Not that how I feel matters......cause I dont vote!

C'mon........ if you don't vote, then you will suffer.............