8 TCs in a row- advice please

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My 15 year old started TCs 2 months ago. She had like one a week/ then Sunday 2 in 25 minutes. They added a drug that starts with a T. Don't have it right now. The next day she started back to backs-1 1/2 minutes long- after the second or third I have her her daistat and called 911- by the time she got to the hospital she had had like 8-10 but getting much shorter.
Let me just tell you this scared the ever loving crap out of me. We stayed at the hospital- neuro wanted to send her home but I and er doc agreed to argue for a stay and we got it. We just came home after no more seizures. I am now scared to death that this will happen in her sleep and I won't hear her. She doesn't want a baby monitor but agreed to sleep with her door open. She makes a very loud groaning sound as she starts every seizure. I am just so scared right now. I'm not sure I will be able to ever sleep again. Anyone have any advice for me? I certainly don't want to smother her but I'm just so worried.
Thank you and happy new year! Jennifer
Oh- and we have no cause yet- clean MRI- clean ct- one abnormal EEG and one normal and sill waiting results on a 24 hour ambulatory. They upped her meds and sent us walking.
 
She's on kepra, frolic acid, and the t medicine as well as now starting melatonin and Zoloft.
 
You're staying in touch with the neurologist and keeping up with the dose of meds. Right? I am so sorry that this is happening to you. I have a child and do not know how i would feel if it were me in your shoes. And I have epilepsy and that is scary enough. Sometimes there is an adjustment time for new meds. I think you will be fine (i know i am no doc.) and all you can do is all you can do, right?
 
Sending cyber hugs -- I'm a Mom of a 10 year old who has tonic-clonics, often in his sleep, and we've gone through the horror of having one tonic clonic after another and having to be in ICU and all that. And after 9 years of seizures, we still don't have a cause for the seizures, although we now know some of the triggers. I'm guessing that puberty may have been a trigger for your daughter's seizures, and it's possible that she may have more seizures around the time of her monthly period.

First thing I recommend, due to the intensity/frequency of your daughter's seizures, is that you get her to a neurologist/hospital that is a level 4 epilepsy center. They will (hopefully) be on top of the best treatments for adolescents with seizures.

As Janus mentioned, there is an adjustment time for new meds (you have to gradually increase the dosage), and sometimes it takes a little while to find the right med. For something like 1/3 of people with epilepsy, the first med works to control the seizures, and for about another 1/4, the 2nd med works, and then there's the 40% (of which my son is a part) who have what's called intractible epilepsy, which doesn't respond well to meds. But it doesn't mean it's a hopeless case -- just that you have to work harder to get seizure freedom. Jonathan has now been seizure free for almost a year (hurray!). But it was a long hard battle to get there. We went through 10 seizure meds before we found one that worked, and also experimented with various supplements and diet, and it's a combo of all 3 that finally got the seizures stopped.

Here's what worked for us:
1) Ketogenic diet - an extremely low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet that changes the brain's fuel from glucose to ketones, and somehow this stops seizures -- about 50% success in children/teens with intractible epilepsy accdg to studies at Johns Hopkins and Mayo where the diet was developed) - - more effective than any med on the market, with very mild side effects (compared to the horrendous side effects of seizure meds). A MAD (Modified Atkins Diet) is now being used successfully with adults. This diet is very strict, and most nutritionists recommend that before initiating it, you should first try an easier approach, such as removing gluten (wheat, etc.) from the diet, and sugar. The LGIT diet (you can do a search for that here) works with controlling the glycemic level (blood sugar) which can be a big trigger for seizures.

2) Zonegran (Zonisamide) -- different meds work well for different people. Topomax worked well for Jon, for 3 1/2 years, and then stopped working. Most other drugs didn't help at all. A little over a year ago, Jon was put on Zonegran, and this stopped the tonic-clonics immediately -- even on the very low, initial dose. But it didn't stop the tonic seizures he was having in the daytime, so it took another 3 months of experimenting with meds, supplements and diet to get them stopped. We found that less is more, with regard to drugs -- adding on additional drugs actually made things worse, but increasing the Zonegran dose did help. However, like all anti-seizure meds, this drug is quite harsh -- it causes acidosis and cognitive dulling -- which is why his neurologist is now tapering it down (since he's been seizure free since the end of Jan 2012).

3) Supplements
- a good multi-vitamin that's esp high in the B vitamins and also has some good stuff like Selenium
- magnesium (at bedtime) - this has anti-seizure properties, and also helps with calming and sleep, which is good for nighttime seizures
- calcium (at bedtime) - also helps with sleep
- zinc (his nutritionist prescribed this for his chronic diarrhea, but it also has anti-seizure properties
- MCT oil - (Medium chain triglycerideds derived from coconut oil) - this helps with changing the body's brain fuel over to ketone -- a lot of children and adults on the Ketogenic/MAD diet use this as a supplement
- fish oil - may have anti-seizure properties, and also helps heal and protect the brain from damage caused by seizures

Sorry this is so long. I would advise reading as much as you can in these forums -- they were invaluable to me in finding the last pieces of the puzzle for seizure freedom.
 
Hi Auctions --

I don't have much to add to the good advice above, but I wanted to welcome you to CWE. It will take some time to work out the "balance of vigilance" with your daughter. Eventually, you and she will get a sense of how the medications are working, and how much supervision is appropriate. Her doctors should also be helpful in this regard.

It can help to keep a journal of your daughter's symptoms, medications, and overall heatlh (sleep, diet, activities). This can help you track the efficacy of the meds as well as their side effects, and might also potentially identify triggers such as the hormonal fluctuations mentioned by KarenB. With your daughter now on 3 powerful prescription medications (Keppra, Trileptal?Topomax? and Zoloft), it's important to make sure that they are doing the job properly with minimal side effects. If you have any concerns or questions don't be shy about getting in touch with the doctors. And if you don't feel comfortable with her current neurologist, it can be worth it to find one who is a better fit.

Best,
Nakamova
 
well said Nakamova, I encourage people to try and get second opinions and as much info as possible before staying with the first thing.
 
and all you can do is all you can do, right?

:agree:

very well put janus, so true. we're all strong b/c there is no other choice, and we just do what we can do. without keeping that frame of mind i would literally have lost it (stress = seizures for me, knowing i've done all i can lowers the stress).

hugs auction, talk to us for help or support ANY time.
 
Well said Qtowngirl, It IS a bit of relief to honor that we may have certain problems that make things 'tougher'? and just doing the best we can. Having done that, I sleep better at night.
 
... They added a drug that starts with a T. Don't have it right now. ...

She's on kepra, frolic acid, and the t medicine as well as now starting melatonin and Zoloft.

Taurine?

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I remember those days of hyperalertness - aware of every noise and vibration in the house in case my loved one should be having a seizure. Sorry you are in that place. Many of of us have been there. Time and experience eventually replaces the anxiety with calm.

15 y/o girl? Any chance the seizures are related to her menstrual cycle (aka catamenial seizures/epilepsy)?
 
It seemed very likely in the beginning that her seizures were happening all around her cycle but now they are happening weekly without any sign of clustering around her period. I am considering putting her on birth control pills to see if it makes any difference. I guess I should do a search on that here to see if it's helped others.
 
The T medicine is clorazepate - I think the t I was coming up with is another name for it
 
Clorazepate is also known as Tranxene. It's a benzodiazepine, so it's usually only for short-term or intermittent use to treat seizures. It can cause the usual benzo side effects -- tolerance, dependence, confusion, withdrawal side effects -- so it should be used with caution. Worth checking in with the neuro about...
 
They said it was a bridge drug but now we have a 30 day supply. I will call them. She wants to try topomax? Cuz she wants the weight loss side effect
 
good for her to know that same as side effects of a drug don't affect everyone, neither do the positives. something to keep in mind moving forward, and also that certain drugs are made purposefully for certain seizure types, a bit of research is ideal while you're waiting. i was on topamax for over two years, helped with grand mals but not at all with partials which were awful. tho i didn't lose weight i stayed at the exact same weight the whole time, which of course was great but it did a number on my intestines to the point i needed a colonoscopy. if i could redo i wouldn't have gone on it, whether i didn't gain weight or not.
imeo the focus while choosing an a.e.d. should be one that best suits the type of seizures rather than 'possible' positive side effects.
 
:agree:
I was briefly on the anti-seizure med Zonisamide. It's known to cause weight loss since it suppresses appetite. Yes, I lost weight, but I also developed a terrible sour stomach. And the low blood seizure from not eating ended up triggering a nasty seizure. I also had cognitive problems on Zonisamide (which fortunately went away when I switched meds).
 
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