anyone have meniere's disease

[Emee]

The reason I ask is, everything that helps the symptoms of meniere's such as antihistamines, antivert, dieuretics, are things that triggers seizures for me. I
feel I'm in a hopeless situation. What do you take for Meniere's? Thanks for any help.

 

[Emee]

No one here ever has vertigo?? Thanks.

 

[epileric]

Actually I do occasionally but I don't need a seizure to feel it. I think it's more a side-effect of my tegretol than my seizures.

There's probably more people here that do too but you sometimes just have to wait a while on this site.

 

[hootie]

Since drugs seem to be out of the question for you...why don't you contact a certified homeopath and see what he/ she can do for you. It is safe and will not interfere with your meds you are on.

In the repertory (a type of book used by homeopaths--I have one by Kent, but there are others) there is a whole section just on vertigo. If you were to visit a homeopath, he/she would ask you about what makes you feel better, worse,etc and use your particular symptoms to determine which remedy best fits YOU and your symptoms.

Good luck finding something! I think homeopathy can help you!!!

 

[epileric]

Good luck finding something! I think homeopathy can help you!!!

Sadly time & time again Homeopathy has been proven not to work any better than a placebo.

OBJECTIVE:
To evaluate the evidence for and against the effectiveness of homeopathy.

DATA SOURCES:
The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews (generally considered to be the most reliable source of evidence) was searched in January 2010.

STUDY SELECTION:
Cochrane reviews with the term "homeopathy" in the title, abstract or keywords were considered. Protocols of reviews were excluded. Six articles met the inclusion criteria.

DATA EXTRACTION:
Each of the six reviews was examined for specific subject matter; number of clinical trials reviewed; total number of patients involved; and authors' conclusions. The reviews covered the following conditions: cancer, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, asthma, dementia, influenza and induction of labour.

DATA SYNTHESIS:
The findings of the reviews were discussed narratively (the reviews' clinical and statistical heterogeneity precluded meta-analysis).

CONCLUSIONS:
The findings of currently available Cochrane reviews of studies of homeopathy do not show that homeopathic medicines have effects beyond placebo.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21437549

 

[hootie]

Epileric...

Time and time again I have seen homeopathy work for my family when conventional medicine did not. I don't care what the studies say...the proof is in the results. It is too bad that you continue to dissuade others from a mode of healing that is safe and effective (if the right remedy is chosen).

Somehow our ancestors survived ( and had less chronic maladies) even when there was no FDA or double blind placebo controlled studies to regulate or prove that a certain herb/ natural healing method helped. They had brains enough to see that if they took or did ___ when they had ___ they got better. This is what I see with homeopathy despite what you and your studies say...every time I witness the miraculous healing, my jaw drops!

Many of the drugs we use now were isolated from stuff that was found in
nature. Sometimes this is helpful, other times "we" manipulate it enough to get the desired effect...PLUS all the nasty "side effects".

Recently, a family member of mine had a strep infection. He took antibiotics and had an allergic reaction to them. He got over the strep but then 3 months later suffered from PANDAS. He was then put on another antibiotic...which did nothing to alleviate the brain effects from strep. I worked with a homeopath that recommended different remedies that took the edge off his symptoms...but knowing what I have seen with acute situations in the past, there was a remedy out there that was better for him. I took the case ( have been studying this mode of healing)...within 15 minutes of giving this remedy, he had a huge jump in progress. This remedy got him to about 90% recovered. I was still not satisfied with 90% and did more research ( and found help from a fellow mom in the same situation)...and obtained streptococcinum (strep diluted and succused to the level that if you tested nothing can be found). He received this and within 5 minutes he proclaimed that he was 100% better....and has been fine since 4 weeks ago.

Meanwhile, parents with kids suffering with PANDAS that are using the conventional method of dealing with this disorder (antibiotics for years on end, steroid bursts that compromise the immune system more, IVIG that exposes
them to thousands of blood donors and possible unintended diseases and costs
tens of thousands of dollars that is many times not covered by insurance) are


still dealing with PANDAS for years and are not better.

Still goes to show you that the proof is in the results. You will never see these results because you refuse to try it.

 

[epileric]

Hootie, First of all I have tried homeopathy & it did nothing.

Also, as far as our ancestors are concerned, they used to use things like leeches, bloodletting & various other "cures" that we now consider barbaric. They did survive but the rate of death was very high & the average life expectancy was less than half of what it is now. I don't consider the fact that we're here to be a good reason to adopt one of their "medical" practices.

It is nice when something is natural but remember, strychnine, cyanide, opium & numerous other poisons are natural too. As well, herbs have their own side-effects & they do interact with other herbs & drugs. All the good herbal sites discuss their interactions & side-effects.

Experts suggest that natural does not mean it is completely safe.Some drugs interfere with the body's ability to absorb nutrients. Similarly, some herbs and foods can lessen or increase the impact of a drug.

http://www.holisticonline.com/herbal-med/hol_herb_med_reac.htm

Also, the 2 laws that homeopathy is based on defy the laws of physics. The first law, called the law of similars states that like cures like. That means that if I have an itch it should be cured with poison ivy. The second law, the law of minimums states the smaller the dose the stronger the effect- again, physically impossible.

As well, most dilutions are C30 dilution. In a 24C solution there is a 60% probability of the solution containing 1 molecule of the original material in one mole. Check out the chart & it will tell you how few molecules it will have.

If you watch this 20 minute expose on homeopathy you will see where they took various homeopathic "rememdies" to a laboratory & they all turned out to be sugar pills. http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2011/cureorcon/

You do keep claiming to be cured but I see that as no more than a placebo effect and when scientific tests & studies show me proof that they don't work, I tend to believe them. You say the proof is in the results but I have seen numerous studies where one group was treated with placebo & the other with homeopathy & both groups always get a little bit better, even the placebo group. As well, I have no doubt that since it was your son with strep that you lack the objectivity to consider your opinion unbiased.

I think you should also be careful when using homeopathy. Since it has been proven not to work some people who have used homeopathy while depriving children of "real" medicine have been charged with manslaughter.
Child death probed after Italian parents rely on homeopathy

Homeopathic Treatment of Severe Eczema in Baby Leads to Death

I have no problem if someone wants to use homeopathy, I only have a problem when they use homeopathy in place of real medicine.

 

[hootie]

Did you use homeopathy for an acute or chronic condition? Did you try something labeled for a particular symptom (cold, earache,sneezing) that you bought for yourself or did you actually see a homeopath that took your case? It can make a difference. Chronic conditions are harder to treat than acutes and remedies need to be picked based on the patients particular symptom...not by what is labeled on the bottle (the FDA requires the bottles to be labeled as such).

Homeopathic remedies do not work like drugs so you can not compare their modes of action. Drugs work based on chemical reactions, homeopathy works in the energetic realm...so really having no molecules left does not matter. My son was cured with a 200c remedy...so for sure there was "nothing" that could be detected in the 'sugar pills' that I gave him. The sugar pill is just the carrier of the diluted energetic substance. I actually put two sugar pills in 12 oz of water and gave my son a teaspoon of the mixture...and it still worked. At this point I don't know that the technology is available to detect how the
remedies work...but they do! Just because we don't know how it works does not mean
that it does not work.

You can call it placebo if you want. It worked...and thatvis all that really matters in the end. Like I said...others using
costly, invasive (IVIG could be considered a barbaric treatment) and risky treatment still have kids suffering from
debilitating symptoms...my son does not. He tried the antibiotics that did not help (and he had an allergic reaction to),
we were about to go down the path of steroids and IVIG. Thankfully the right remedy was found and he became well. I
did not have much confidence in the recovery via conventional protocol anyway.

When my son received the right remedy he did not get just a little better...all his symptoms went away and stayed away...he became 100% better. No more symptoms, no more remedy given.

So...what is your recommendation for Loopeyloo?

The conventional stuff only exacerbates the seizures. I say homeopathy...

 

[epileric]

So what you're saying is that "energies" in water can cure a physical ailment like strep or PANDAS. I find that hard to swallow since I don't believe in magic. Even if it is "energies" how does the energy of something that caused something cure it too?

As far as using the placebo effect to "cure" people, that contradicts medical ethics.

Now, the use of placebos in clinical practice is generally denounced by medical organizations as a violation of trust between the doctor and patient.

http://www.mndaily.com/2011/03/23/placebo-ethics-real-or-perceived I'm amazed it doesn't contradict homeopathic ethics.

Many doctors find that unethical & oppose homeopathy for that reason Placebo ethics: real or perceived?
You say your sons symptoms went away when he got the right treatment. How many other treatments had you tried? If you tried too many I'd think it just went away on its own or just placebo effect.

As for Loopeyloo, I'm afraid I don't have any advice for her but I would rather she not waste her time & money on something you just told me is all "energy" and hence doesn't work instead of taking (or looking for) something that might.

 

[hootie]

I said you could CALL it placebo, not that it was placebo.

Homeopathic remedies work on what Hahnemann called the "vital force"...it is not something that can be measured ( as far as I know)...study homeopathy if you want to understand it better...

You seem to be one that needs to see to believe...homeopathy will not be for you...and that is fine with me. I think you are missing out but that is not really my concern.

Loopeyloo...try homeopathy...if you can not find anything in conventional medicine to help you, homeopathy can. Let me know if you need help finding a homeopath.

I've seen remedies work on infants, animals, kids, adults...for asthma attacks, ear aches, diarrhea,PANDAS, post-surgical pain, cramps, flu, broken bone pain, etc.

 

[epileric]

You seem to be one that needs to see to believe...homeopathy will not be for you

Why would I try something that doesn't work if I don't believe in it? If it works what I believe should be irrelevant.

I'll tell you if my doctor told me he had a cure for me but I had to believe I'd find a new doc.

 

[hootie]

Again, you misinterpret what I am saying...

It is not a belief that it works...it does work.

It is a different mode of healing than the way conventional drugs work so the methods of studying the action of remedies can not be the same as what is used in conventional medicine. Since you need so-called studies in order to believe something works...well...I guess this may not happen in you lifetime to your satisfaction.

I think you are missing out.

I receive no financial gain in spreading the word that homeopathy works. I do receive satisfaction in knowing that when people try it and get results that they will spread the word as well.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to stand in the way of someone else's healing via alternative methods...especially since you have no ideas to offer and meds have been tried without success AND caused a worsening of symptoms.

Why do alternative methods pose a threat to you? I sincerely want to know since you always come out with your fists up when anything other than conventional meds are discussed...

 

[Nakamova]

Hootie, Eric -- I'm going to respectfully step in to this never-ending debate, and ask for a truce in this thread.

Hootie, it's terrific that you and others have had success with homeopathy. You're welcome to share that information, just as Eric is welcome to share his. Eric isn't standing in the way of someone else's healing, so much as making sure that folks know it is a way of healing that lacks scientific proof. This doesn't mean that it hasn't had anecdotal success, as in your case. Or even that it won't necessarily work for others. Just that it hasn't met the standard of current scientific assessment (consistent, large scale, reproducible results). As with all ways of healing (including scientifically-proven ones), CWE's standard advice is: Become as informed as possible, be aware of the costs, risks, and benefits, and proceed with caution.

You both have provided information, now loopeyloo can take it from here.

 

[Emee]

Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm open to Homeopathy, but sadly there is not a homeopathic doc in my area.

 

[hootie]

Loopeyloo...

There are homeopaths that will work with you via phone or Skype. I can give recommendations if you are interested.

 

[Emee]

Thanks hootie, that's a good idea. I will call some of the Homeopaths in the Atlanta area.

 

[mommyexpress]

I haven't been to this website in a while. I had meineres before the seizures. I take Topamax 200mg 2X daily (for seizures), and Mecllizine 25 mg daily (to combat the vertigo). The Meclizine doesn't seem to bother the seizure medicine. I have tried to eat less salt but to know avail. There are also things like taking Dandilion supliments that I have tried that worked at first before the seizures. Also do not drink caffeine it also makes things worse, which you might already know. Also another supplement is parsley. If you go to the meineres website they have some ideas for you to try. I have lost most of my hearing in my right ear. Just hoping the left will not be the same.

 

[Emee]

mommyexpress, I'm sorry to hear you've lost a lot of hearing in your right. Maybe if you protect your left from loud noise it might slow things down. I have it in both ears & have lost a lot of hearing in both. I am using ear plugs when in loud noises but I don't know if it is helping or not. Thanks for your reply.