Do you read the side effects list before starting a new med?

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Loopy Lou

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I never used to read the side effects list in case my brain sort of "thought" i had side effects which i didn't. Like a psychological thing. Hope i'm explaining myself properly here lol.

After my experience with Vimpat, i'm thinking maybe i should prepare myself beforehand. By the time i made the connection that my depression and insomnia was from Vimpat, i'd already been struggling for months, become a hermit and nearly walked out on my job after being signed off sick for weeks. I made my autistic client cry because she thought i was going to walk out of the building and not come back, and i felt awful.

Two weeks after cutting my dose down from 200mg a day to 100 and i'm already feeling quite a bit better, but not perfect yet.

So do you check up on side effects first or wait to see what happens when you've been taking the med for a while?
 
To be honest, I normally do.... but since starting the Vimpat, I didnt look into the side effects before starting it. I waited til around five days or so after starting it before I even looked to see what side effects it would cause.

Apart of me wished I would have looked at the side effects before then!
 
It's called the "Nocebo" effect -- where if you know something might have negative effects, then it does. It's as real as the placebo effect. They've done experiments where they blindfold someone and tell them that they are being brushed with poison ivy. The the person break outs with a skin rash where they were touched, even though it was just a harmless leaf that touched them.

Despite that possibility, I've found it's just better to know the side effects, in part because the side effects of brain meds aren't always something you automatically connect with the drug, or they happen so gradually that you don't realize the med is at fault. When my hair starts falling out, I want to know that it's the Lamictal that's causing it. When I'm feeling dizzy, I like to know that it dizziness caused by meds, not dizziness caused by a seizure.

So for me the benefits of knowing the side effects outweigh any risks.
 
Okay, it's not like I dont' trust my epi, but, when it comes to my body and my well-being, I take end responsibility for my healthcare and my healthcare choices. My doc isn't the one who decides what course of treatment is best for me. He makes recommendations and I decide what's the best course of treatment for me. After all, I'm the one that's putting the pill in my mouth. That said...

Yes, I check the side effects first. I want to see if I even want to be ON the drug. If, say, 30% of people have severe dizziness, it's not the drug for me. I wouldn't risk it because then I couldn't drive again. Or if it hadn't been approved for monotherapy yet and that's how we are using it, I'd ask my doc about that so I could understand his thinking better.

Also if it has a black box warning and the doc didn't tell me about it, that's something the patient HAS to know, or it could kill them. Like Lamictal and skin rash. This is a couple of years old, but here's an example of news of a black box warning about a side effect I'd DEFINITELY want to know about:
In 2008, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration instructed manufacturers of anticonvulsants to include a label warning about the increased risk of suicidal thoughts or actions associated with these drugs.
Drugs.com

Black Box Warning:
Definition: Not all pharmaceutical drugs are safe for all patients to take. When a prescription drug is known to be effective for some patients, but may cause serious side effects in others, the FDA will require the drug's printed materials, both inside the packaging and on materials developed for the doctors who may prescribe the drug, to carry a warning about those adverse effects. That warning is surrounded by a printed black box; thus the name.
A black box warning is the strongest form of warning issued by the FDA about a drug, the step taken just short of removing the drug from the market. It's a recognition of how harmful the drug can be if given to patients who are at risk of developing the possible adverse side effects.
http://patients.about.com/od/glossary/g/blackboxwarning.htm

The seizure meds we are on are pretty serious, and the side effects can be pretty serious. It's not like we're just popping a Tums. I want to know what I'm putting in my body.

I also look up how long the drug has been out, and check on any postmarking (after release) side effects. Googling it will provide most of that, and this site provides the rest. http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/InformationOnDrugs/ucm135151.htm If a drug hasn't been out very long, chances are the full range of side effects are not known, and the long term side effects are definitely not known, so the drug is riskier. That alone wouldn't prevent me from taking a drug I needed, but it would factor into the decision.

The above FDA website kind of sucks because it is not a searchable data base. It's a downloadable PDF file so you have to want the info really badly, because you have to dig it out. One thing on that site that I DO love is info on the inactive ingredients that are in any given drug/manufacturer. Sometimes I have a reaction to a drug and I suspect the inactive ingredients, not the drug itself. Just changing the supplier does the trick. (I was this way with Cipro, an antibiotic)

The last reason I now read the package insert in advance is because I get a side effect and my epi's typical response is "that's not a side effect of <insert drug here>". When I am armed with the package insert he has to address that side effect. I hate it when he says that it hasn't held true in clinical practice. That's when I whip out my printed out, highlighted page from www.askapatient.com. I think I drive him a little nuts sometimes, lol........

Sighhhhhh... Homework, homework, homework.....
 
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I honestly never expected the side effects to be so pronounced so I nver did for the first year.Of course,other than scan a few articles,I never investigated my diagnosis either.I figured they were they experts and they saw it on the tests and I got 2 inches from the epis face and repeatedly asked if him if he was 100% sure so I drifted along but never really accepted for over a year all the weird stuff.anyway,Im getting offcourse,as usual,the reason I didnt investigate drugs or tle was what you mentioned-I didnt want to subconsciously fit myself in there-still thought I didnt belong.And now?Just curious
 
At 1st I didn't worry about side effects 8 years ago I had a bad experience with anti depression meds.
Since then whenever I am put on a new medication (especially anti epilepsy) I always google the side effects.
 
Absolutely! Like what Endless said - the Dr. makes recommendations, I read the side effects, make the risk calculations, and decide if I want to take the medication.

Lamictal - I am lucky. It (mostly) works for me. No rash.

Keppra - I was a mad woman

The last thing that was recommended, I don't remember what it was called, but I decided the risk of a fatal anemia that only showed up years later wasn't worth it. And she didn't even tell me about that side effect!

fwiw - I never experienced any "euphoria effect" on Vimpat
 
I have to admit that I'm one who doesn't read the side effects until something starts to happen then I will see if it might be because of one of the meds that I am taking.

My neuro will however let me know some of the things that may occur when I am taking the med, so I know if something that he told me about happens then I know it's because of the med.
 
When I got a rash from lamictal,I thought it was from digging outside.I live in a house by woods that was empty for 2 yrs and waist deep in anything imaginable,I like to add flower beds and figured i played in something.Even when I called epis office,they shrugged it off and said go to emergency room if I couldnt breath.I went to walgreens clinic for cream for insane itching and got steroid cream.So even reading label,nobody seemed to care about that til i had appt with epi luckily 2wks later and it was so bad,he admitted me.Had some weird auras around that time!!
 
When our little baby was n meds I didn't dare to read about the side effects..I think it would have been just too much to cope with at the time if I would have started worrying about what it might be causing.. but now off meds we have noticed a tremendous change in her.. and her development is going super fast forward!
 
Tase,Im so glad things are going well-been thinking and praying about you the last week-i have a soft spot for kids
 
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