Has anyone stated on a job application that they suffer from e and been sucsessful

[Crash]

I was just wondering if anyone has managed to overcome this signifigant hurdle? I certainly have not,im talking about sending a cv,forms to a faceless company that has no knowledge of you whatsoever,be good to hear if anyone has.

 

[lovemyladybug]

i know your supposed to , but i never put anything on my applications or resume ( for fear of discrimination ) luckily it didnt affect my job performnce in my teens , and i had already been working for a company for a while in adult hood before it became a big problem so i never had to worry too much about the application part ( the job part after the fact was a diff story ) if it were me i would wait and see if i was called in for an interview and then tell them so your not scratched off their list before they even meet you ( even though thats not supposed to happen we all know it does )

 

[epileric]

i know your supposed to

That surprises me since it is illegal for employers to ask about specific medical issues in Canada. They are allowed to ask if there is anything that might interfere with work but the focus has to be on work, not ones health, place of birth, skin colour etc.

 

[knothing]

It is not their business to know. I had a boss once give me advice on this. He told me to let them hire me the professional and then work out the details on me the person after I have the hire letter in hand.

 

[lovemyladybug]

That surprises me since it is illegal for employers to ask about specific medical issues in Canada. They are allowed to ask if there is anything that might interfere with work but the focus has to be on work, not ones health, place of birth, skin colour etc.

i only say your supposed to , because your are supposed to let the employer know if there is anything that interferes with your work or ability to get to and from work ( and at least in my case the to and from work would be a problem if i filled out an app now , and i'm not supposed to operate machinery or climb on ladders things like that ) because even though they cant legally discriminate due to a disability ( as long as it doesnt go past them providing "reasonable accomadations " to an employee .... if there is an accomadation or exception you need and you dont reveal it to them before hand later on that can be used as grounds for termination ( at least this has been my understanding of things when my previous employer trained me for the hiring , friring human resources , side of my job ) either way the sad fact is sooo many states in the US are " work at will" states it wont matter what you do , if it's causing the employer a problem or they just dont like it , they just fire you , because they dont even have to give you the reason they fired you

 

[epileric]

sooo many states in the US are " work at will" states it wont matter what you do , if it's causing the employer a problem or they just dont like it , they just fire you , because they dont even have to give you the reason they fired you

That doesn't exactly give people incentive to be completely straightforward with their employers, does it.

Even in Canada, despite employers not supposed to ask I know that I have often been laid off (for very legitimate reasons of course) very soon after my seizures were made public with only a few exceptions.

 

[lovemyladybug]

That doesn't exactly give people incentive to be completely straightforward with their employers, does it.

Even in Canada, despite employers not supposed to ask I know that I have often been laid off (for very legitimate reasons of course) very soon after my seizures were made public with only a few exceptions.

no it sure doesnt ! pitiful really , and they wonder why so many people are unemployed .... that sure doesnt help !

 

[Loopy Lou]

Neil, I'm going over the hurdles of looking for a new job at the moment. The equality act of 2010 means that employers are no longer allowed to ask for medical information on an application form any more.

I have found that suddenly, since then, I have been getting more interviews. The problem is that many companies are getting around it by introducing a medical as part of the application process.

Back to square one >.<

 

[Trinity]

Well, I am in Australia so I can only go off what the laws are here but I don't inform anyone before being hired. I always inform people who I am working with if I am in a temporary or permanent position. Whenever I am working casually (I am a teacher so sometimes could be a day at one school and then a day at another) I usually don't mention it unless there is an issue (last term I had to mention that I had E at a school because we were at an assembly and there were some majorly flickering lights and I had to let them know that I had a reason to have them turned off - thankfully they were VERY accomodating). I work 3 days a week at another school and am there until at least the end of this year. They are aware of my condition as I disclosed based on Occupational Health and Safety reasons. Here the law states that if someone informs their employer of a medical condition (whether before or after employment or at any point later - even if 15years after a diagnosis and you've been employed there the whole time) they are required to make accomodations (such as making sure I don't have to be exposed to flickering/flashing lights) from the point of disclosure. Of course if I don't mention anything I can't get in trouble but my employer can not be held accountable if I have a seizure because I was asked to supervise at the school disco. If I disclose then they need to organise someone else to supervise the disco and I would need to be given other suitable duties (i'm usually the one selling the popcorn - and maybe eating a little myself -outside :lol: )

 

[Endless]

Neil, I'm going over the hurdles of looking for a new job at the moment. The equality act of 2010 means that employers are no longer allowed to ask for medical information on an application form any more.

I have found that suddenly, since then, I have been getting more interviews. The problem is that many companies are getting around it by introducing a medical as part of the application process.

Back to square one >.<

I'd think the physical exam would be the last step in the hiring process, seeing they are quite expensive. If they withdraw an offer, or stop you at that point in the process for something in the exam that wasn't a work requirement (like blind in one eye for a job that doesn't require 20/20 in both eyes), they'd have a heck of a lawsuit on their hands.

Q: does your law require the doctor to keep your medical info private from the company, if it is not applicable to your work, or do they hand it all over to the employer, relevent or not?

 

[Crash]

Endless,
Im pretty sure our records are strictly confidential over here,the only way anybody can see your records is if you give them acsess,which in my opinion is the way it should be.I remember not telling the truth,and having a seizure working in a kitchen,it was a stress trigger,they were all right about it but i jacked for the sake of my own health.Talking to the manager later on,man to man you could say he admited to me there was no was he would have employed me had i put down i had epilepsy at least he was honest i suppose.

But still no one been employed out there,maybe there is no one???????????

 

[knothing]

I am still employed at the place where I had my first adult grand mal seizure.

 

[Crash]

I am still employed at the place where I had my first adult grand mal seizure.

Thats great you have such understanding employers,mine is great like that to,but they certainly seem to be thin on the ground.

 

[Loopy Lou]

Well, the "medicals" I've had have just been questions and answers. The only place that has requested information from my docs is my current workplace for risk assessment purposes, and they had to get my permission first.

 

[Crash]

Just wanted to clear this up,no one on this site applied for a job,stated they had e and were employed? That says it all in my book....................crap.

 

[rhiz]

I just wanted to put in my 2cents on this one!

I recently applied for a company here in the UK, and as they did not want a CV and had their own form I had to state my "health conditions", epilepsy obviously being one. I had to state these as if I lied and had a seizure in work and caused injury to myself, they could get into a load of trouble with their insurers (I was only told this recently myself)

However instead of just putting "epilepsy" I made the point of putting "Epilepsy which is FULLY CONTROLLED by medication"

Big difference between the two statements as epilepsy to people who don't know could just mean seizing everywhere and being unfit to work, however stating that you are fully controlled means they have no worries and understand better

By the way, I did get the job and had my work induction yesterday

Most companies over here DO have disability targets they HAVE to meet by law or for insurance purposes, other ones have to give people interviews if they disclose that they are disabled. Not sure if it's the same in US and such though

 

[epileric]

I posted this elsewhere on the site but it's very relevant to this thread.

Dr. Mac Burnham, a director of the University of Toronto's Epilepsy Research Program, says one in 300 people live with uncontrolled seizures and they are the ones who have all the problems.

"They are frequently fired if they have seizures at work," he told The Canadian Press.
At least Catalfo has an understanding employer.

But 32-year-old "Robert," who does not want his real name used because it could jeopardize his chances of future employment, hasn't been so lucky — and has been fired twice because of his epilepsy.

Some people with epilepsy face employment challenges due to condition

 

[Crash]

Good news to hear you got your job and even better news to know there are employers out there that do adhere to the rules and regulations,im just going by my experiences which applying for posts at faceless companys have been pretty negative,but maybe my grades are just crap,i dont know.

Intresting point putting down "Fully controlled by medication" if you dont mind me asking how long do you class fully controlled? Anyway i hope everything works out for you,good luck.

 

[rhiz]

Well, I've been rejected for a lot of other jobs from smaller companies and I reckon it may of been a factor there to be honest, but atleast with the bigger ones they do have targets for disablities!

I always put it but in my mind if you can go 2 months without having a tonic clonic (you can probably get away with myoclonic jerks) then I'd say you're fully controlled, but that's only in my experience as usually if I can go 2 months (as I used to have one every month) then I'm under control! Depends how regular yours are I'd say

 

[Ghots]

Hmmmm. I live in the United States, and as such, I do not have to state any medical condition on application for employment.

Yes, a lot of states have at-will statutes, however, it is illegal for an employer in an at-will state to terminate an individual's employment because they seize at work, or it comes out that they have a seizure disorder. (yes, the employer can fire you for other reasons, but it can come down to how it looks. if you have a seizure at work and the next day you are fired for failing to meet corporate expectations, that is a very bad move on the employer's part as that puts a target on their back for a discrimination lawsuit,.)

Here in the states, an employer can be forced into going as far as providing a place for you to go to rest after a seizure, or if you feel like you may have one coming on. The American's With Disabilities Act of 1990 has an entire section on epileptics. The section even states that an epileptic would not be prohibited from working as a police officer simply because of their condition.

I can't rightly make any suggestions on this matter to anyone who does not live in the states, however, I will tell you how I have handled this.

I never tell my employer before I am hired or before the 90 day probationary hire period ends and I am considered a full time permanent employee. And then I have only disclosed the information after I have a reason to. Just because I have a doc appt, isn't a reason. If I have a grand mal and will be in the hospital for 72hrs for monitoring, then I will inform. However, if you are in the states and in a situation like that, you can simply ask a doctor for a note stating you will be gone or need to be excused for X dates, and that should be sufficient.

Employers do have to abide by the Privacy Act of 1974, doctors and other health officials have to follow HIPPA guidelines, and then of course there is the ADA of 1990.