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You know how there is deja vu? An overwhelming sense of familiarity.
Then there is jamais vu....an overwhelming feeling of unfamiliarity in a familiar setting.

But did you know there is presque vu?
This is when you are trying to think of a word and it's just on the tip of your tongue. I know everyone gets this feeling but I found it amusing that there a "vu" term for it and anyone who has seizures or is on any seizure meds talks about this feeling.

Too funny.
 
Oh wow... :)
Well I get Deja and Presque all the time... but I'm very glad I've never had Jamais Vu... I think that'd be severely disorienting
 
I do get Jamais vu, and it is pretty scarry. Mine almost always hit me at home, but I have had it happen at the mall. I actually have had to ask someone what store I was in and how to get out. I'm pretty sure I made it to their conversation at dinner about "what happened during your day"?
 
Vu! That describes my life. Damn words allude me all the time

Maybe this is TMI but I once got Jamais vu while sitting on the crapper at work :) I had no idea what was beyond the walls of my stall. I kept thinking "where the hell am I". Sadly I found out it was work :/
 
I get deja vu all the time - it's my number one aura symptom! Jamais vu... I think I've had it before, but I can't remember the exact instance. I just seem to remember there being a time when I had no idea what I was doing/how I got there. Weird. Presque, yep, definitely have had that one! But that doesn't seem to be exclusive to people with epilepsy (then I guess neither is deja vu).
 
I have deja vu a lot. I think I can tell the difference between regular deja vu (literally last a couple seconds) and seizure deja vu (can last up to 2 minutes).

Presque Vu I get only occasionally. But I think for the most part when I cant find a word I am looking for, its because Im thinking of a word that sounds like it, or has the same meaning, and just cant think up a synonym for it.

Jamais Vu I have been getting increasingly lately. Sitting in the car and not knowing where we are going, or where I even am. Shopping at the grocery store and having it suddenly look unfamiliar. Luckily my hubby is there most times and he can tell by the quizzical look on my face that Im "lost"
 
Presque, yep, definitely have had that one! But that doesn't seem to be exclusive to people with epilepsy (then I guess neither is deja vu).

Presque is basically a form of aphasia. Quite a few of the AED's are notorious for causing that. I definitely suffer from it as I also had a left temporal lobectomy, and that causes it also. I also have a damaged hippocampus, which is the speech area of the brain, and that can cause it, too. It is frustrating being in conversation with others and I cannot get that word I want out. :bigmouth:
 
You might have seen this before (or maybe you just think you've seen it before):

presquevu.jpg
 
Silat...jamais vu is scary. It is most disturbing. I had it just the other day when I finished dropping off my one girl at daycare and was just about to cross the street. Fortunately it didn't last too long.
P-Funk...I totally get the bathroom experience!! I wonder if it has something to do with your vagal nerve and the um, digestive process. That has happened to me too! Why the heck are my pants down? Ohhhhhh. Bathroom. Sad realization that you're at work too isn't it?
Huskymom....that's a bit embarassing isn't it when things happen in public? At least it was in a place where the person was polite to you. I hope you made it out of the mall.
Running girl...deja vu is a bit of a dreamy experience for me. The sudden whooooosh of remembering something. But perhaps if they were a prelude to t/c's I'd find them scary but mainly I find them curious and then I nod off and do my little thing.
Rae: That's a looooong deja vu. Mine must be only 30 seconds or so but 2 mins must be alot to handle. That sucks about your jamais vu increasing. The very vu you probably want less of. I hope it doesn't last as long as your deja vu.

Presque vu happens to me many times a day. I don't think it's an aura or anything...more like a side effect. I love it when gesturing becomes more useful and charades becomes a spontaneous game. I think I've read other posts dedicated just to this! Ah, the interesting lives we lead.
 
Nakamova....that is hilarious! I haven't seen that one before! (although I got the deja vu reference, tee hee) I bet butchers just wait for the opportunity to use that joke. ALthough I bet it doesn't come up too often. Does anyone really eat tongue?

Poor Cint...the presque vu is frustrating, isn't it? I bet it doesn't comfort you to know why it happens. It must be irritating that it happens so frequently to you. I hope people are understanding!
 
I love it when gesturing becomes more useful and charades becomes a spontaneous game. I think I've read other posts dedicated just to this! Ah, the interesting lives we lead.


Oh yes, gesturing has become my second langu.

When my husband ask where I want to eat out at, I use my hands on top of my head, acting like a bull, that mean I want steak, I could go on and on.
 
I have deja vu a lot. I think I can tell the difference between regular deja vu (literally last a couple seconds) and seizure deja vu (can last up to 2 minutes).

Jamais Vu I have been getting increasingly lately. Sitting in the car and not knowing where we are going, or where I even am. Shopping at the grocery store and having it suddenly look unfamiliar. Luckily my hubby is there most times and he can tell by the quizzical look on my face that Im "lost"

Hm... I think the difference between my seizure induced deja vu and non-seizure is the other stuff that goes along with it. If it's seizure induced, I also get other symptoms as well, such as increased heartrate. It also feels dream like (I get either the short flashes of familiarity along with an increased heart rate or I'll feel like I'm remembering a dream, but it's hard to explain that one).

Now that I think about it, I can remember some "jamais vu" type incidences... Whether they were from seizures or were just me being spacey, I don't know (this is what makes me wonder how long this whole epilepsy thing has been going on). There have been times I've turned out of my driveway and suddenly thought I was on a different road... Like driving on the wrong side of the road for whatever stupid reason because I thought it was a one-way street. Even though I lived there for years. I've also had instances where I've been driving, and I'll suddenly forget what it is I'm supposed to be doing at a certain type of road. Like, I just completely blank (I can't remember the exact type of road this happened at, but it scared the crap out of me that I forgot what to do, which is how I remember). I never seem to know where I'm going either, but that just seems to be ME for as long as I can remember, lol.
 
RunningGirl: thats one of the reasons why people with E shouldnt drive. Its dangerous and it sort of irks me that you continue to drive, knowing you have seizures and have had these happen in the car while driving. You are not only playing with your life, but the lives of your passengers and others on the road. I know not driving is an inconvenience, but that is just being selfish. If you only had seizures while sleeping, it would be different. But having them while awake and knowingly while driving...

At this point in my life, I would NEVER drive. My E is far too uncontrolled and unpredictable for me to risk lives
 
I think she was saying before she was diagnosed with epilepsy. I look back before my diagnosis and can now identify simple partials I just ignore. I can remember them as far back as middle school. They use to fascinate me and sometimes still do.
 
I don't drive. Like P-funk said I was undiagnosed, had no idea I had epilepsy, and not on any medication. And even when I COULD drive if I was having an aura/not feeling right, I wouldn't drive. I would never purposely put others or myself in danger like that.

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I've definitely had deja vu. I've been having it in short spans over the past few days since being postictal from whenever the f*** it was. I hate thinking about it. A lot of the time it seems like any "memory" momentum will trigger the vus so at times I just try not to think about anything like that
 
I experience familiarity/deja vu very very often. This recent experience is over now, but from Friday until Monday it was almost nonstop. I was pretty damn sure almost every thing being said or experienced was in my memory. I'm used to that. I don't mark those down as simple partial seizures and they don't warn me of anything unless emotion or weird thoughts start to get involved. Thats how my epilepsy started. I thought I could join the circus as a psychic.
It's been a long time; six years or so since I've had jamias vu and I hate that vu. Hopefully its gone forever. I would not be sure where I was and start to warn possible people around me of my impending seizure, afterwards I might come to in an empty room at home or a public bathroom.
The word finding difficulty seems to be one I share with the rest of the world and have fun expanding my vocabulary with.
 
thank you DayDreamer
for some reason your post struck a particular chord with me and brought me some comfort today
I've been having the bad vu's lately -

F&%$#*#$%

GODDAMIT this is an example of what I'm talking about - almost immediately after I type the "having the bad vu's lately" my co-worker's (what turns out to be Chris Brown "Deuces") web-radio blurts a "she give me déjà vu" lyric - the only lyric that grabs any of my attention
WTF
 
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