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I have no clue what is going on with my daughter. She hasn't been seeing the shapes or lights lately. No sounds, that we know of. She has been complaining of the numb hands, where she feels like she doesn't even have hands anymore. Her memory is also getting worse, her forgetting what show she was watching right after she watched it, or forgetting what she was going to do immediately. Still dizzy sometimes.

Saturday in the car she said her head felt weird. I asked her how so, and she couldn't explain it at first. Finally she said that it felt like she had spiders crawling all over her head and face.

I think the nuero is right, and it isn't seizures. It just all seems so random, no pattern, such different episodes happening. I just wanted to post and say thank you all so much for your help, I truly appreciate it!
 
There is definitely something going on with your daughter. If it's not seizures then there is something else. Is your primary care physician running every test imaginable to search for another physical diagnosis? There are lots of diseases that mimic epilepsy. (autoimmune, endocrine, cardio, etc.) The neuro should be looking, too, for other possible neurological causes. Please let us know how she is doing.
 
There is definitely something going on with your daughter. If it's not seizures then there is something else. Is your primary care physician running every test imaginable to search for another physical diagnosis? There are lots of diseases that mimic epilepsy. (autoimmune, endocrine, cardio, etc.) The neuro should be looking, too, for other possible neurological causes. Please let us know how she is doing.
Nope, the pediatrician hasn't looked into much else. She did say we should take her to a psychologist because of the hallucinations, but I do not at all think that is necessary. She had a normal sleep deprived eeg, and a normal MRI. Other than that, they are dismissing everything. I wish I could get the point across to them, this is not in her head. She isn't one to fake. She isn't one to lie, EVER! If she says something is going on, she is being honest.
 
A psychologist? Oh, brother. The doctors say that when they don't know the answer and they can't admit it, or don't have the tenacity to keep trying. They blame the disease on the patient. If the doctor can't figure it out then it doesn't exist, right?

You know your daughter best. Listen to both your instincts as a mother and your logic. Read old posts in the forum. There were so many people with problems like you are having with finding a diagnosis and finding good doctors.

Excuse me for lingering on this point, but I'm irked on behalf of you and your daughter. What if a car had a huge jarring clanging noise when the engine was running, and the mechanic couldn't figure it out? He'd never say there's no clanking, or that you hear the car clanging because you have a screw loose (pun intended), or that the clanking sound is normal. That would just be ridiculous. Because of course there's a problem. The mechanic would probably say he couldn't figure it out, or he'd call and ask around until he got it fixed. Yes, he'd charge you $400 for the diagnostic, but at least he'd acknowlege the clanging. In this one regard, most doctors are held to a lower standard than a mechanic. Go figure. They can deny what's going on in front of them, heap more worries and problems onto the patient, and call it good. If they were asked if they are doing this, of course they would say no and in their mind, have a perfect explaination of why.

Definitely not all doctors. There are many gems out there who try hard, search every corner, deal honestly with their patients, and don't give up. They stick with it, talk to other doctors and read up to find answers. Or, they say they don't know how to fix it and send you to someone who can. Those doctors are precious when you find one. It's just hard to find one when you don't feel well or are too tired to look.

IMHO... Get a new PCP. And a new neurologist while you are at it. Ask the PCP to check for endocrine and inflammatory diseases at the very least. The first screens for those are just easy blood tests. Has she had MRIs? What did they show? I wouldn't recommend one of these but has she had a lumbar puncture? If so what were the results of that? (no infection?) Make sure your new PCP is an internal medicine doctor, not just a family doctor or run of the mill pediatrician. Consider taking her to a major teaching hospital. Sometimes they are more open-minded, diagnostically creative, and up to date on current research and treatments.

I wish I could wave a magic wand and make everything okay, but I can't. I'm so deeply hoping you find a good doctor and that things get better for her. Please keep us in the loop and let us know how she is doing, okay?

P.S. A psychologist may be a good idea, but for a different reason. More for helping her learn to cope with what's happening to her. Help her stay strong and less afraid. Give her an avenue to talk about it. All good things.
 
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Hi Rockermama,

I'm so sorry you are having such a difficult time with the doctors. I agree with Endless; you know your daughter best. I just wanted to suggest, if you don't get any answers soon, to look into a T3 MRI. I know your daughter had an MRI which didn't show anything, but most MRI's are a 1.5T which is less effective in detecting small abnormalities. Even if you don't think your daughter is having seizures, a T3 MRI might reveal something that could be the cause of your daughter's symptoms.

I posted a story last year with a link to an article about the advantages of the T3. I've seen the difference in image quality myself; 3T MRI images compared to 1.5T(Regular)MRI images are like hi definition compared to analogue TV pictures. But not all hospitals have the 3T's.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0905153753.htm

Hang in there! And keep us posted.
 
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You post really made me feel sad and mad for you at what you are going though. How horrible for both you and your daughter. Don't give up on finding an answer something is going on keep searching until you either find an answer or what ever it is that is happening stops and never returns. I can't imagine how worried you must be and how your daughter must feel.
As everyone has suggested get a new medical team involved. I am going through a similar situation with my 1yr old and no one able to work out what is happening and why his "disconnects" his Nureo is great but I have also seen an osteo who has referred us onto a specialist paedeatric osteo who deals with different cases like my son. I have let his Nureo and Paed know what I am doing as I said to them I will try anything so long as it doesn't cause him harm and who knows this may be the person who works out what is causing my sons issues. I don't care if anyone thinks I am over the top as I would rather have them think that than me sit back and wait and see "if he grows out of it" and have it be something very serious which if we had gotten on to earlier would have had a better result.
Hang in there. Please keep us updated.
Donnajane.
 
I am trying to get recommendations for people for a new Dr. I really do like the Dr, but she isn't doing enough. I can see them saying it must be normal after they have done a lot of testing, but not right away just because they did two tests.

I am totally bitter to the whole medical system. We live in a good area with lots of Drs, and most of the specialists work in the Children's Hospital that is supposed to be so fantastic. But it is awful. My son is almost 3, and we have been through a ton with him, including atypical febrile seizures. From what we have experienced, the Dr writes referrals to specialists, the specialists either dismiss things right away or send you to a new specialist. It is just awful.
 
My sister has MS and is going for a T3 soon(hopefully!), and the nearest facility is over an hour away. Hopefully we find a neurologist willing to send my daughter for a better one if she needs it.
 
It's amazing how many posts I have seen all over from parents that don't have answers and are struggling to get them. I hope you have some answers soon!!!
 
Just a thought....Get her in for a sleep study. My son goes Feb 25th..

Also, have you considered trying the GFCF or GARD diet? Both my sons just started this 3 days ago. I still need to get rid of a few things ... I would say I have 90% of it gone. I have already noticed some changes, especially with my younger son (2yrs) who might have celiacs...His stools are actually starting to thicken up. Something I have not seen since I can't remember when!

Edited to say: Its best if the whole family considers eating this way, or little hands get a hold of foods they should not eat. It does not have to be pricey (initial start up will cost to replace other foods) if you home make everything.

eta again! My son will also be seeing a naturopath tomorrow to address food allergies/sensitivities that he may have, and to have blood work done to check vitamin levels...He will go on supplements that benefit those with epilepsy.
 
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My son goes for his FOURTH one on Thursday, he is 2. I plan on asking for one for her. She has always been my good sleeper, but I am starting to wonder if her quality of sleep isn't that good.

We haven't messed with her diet at all. She is a good eater, but very small for a 6 year old.
 
I hope her doctor agrees! I am nervous as to how my son will do with the sleep study being he's only just turned 4....terrible 4's..lol. Hope we make it through!

Her diet might be something to consider....I have heard of many having success while waiting...having to deal with the 'unknown'. I believe it takes a month to see full results, but like I said, I'm already noticing a few. :)
 
What your daughter describes sounds amazingly like the signals that I get before having a migraine. The numb hands, crawling scalp, even the lights and stars. I sometimes am lucky enough to get the signals without the actual headaches. (although more often I get the full blown headache) I wonder if the memory loss can be attributed to the fact that she is so distracted by the other odd things that are happening to her at the time. Bless her heart! I hope and pray for the best.
 
... She has been complaining of the numb hands, where she feels like she doesn't even have hands anymore. Her memory is also getting worse, her forgetting what show she was watching right after she watched it, or forgetting what she was going to do immediately. Still dizzy sometimes. ...

Those sound like symptoms of Dilantin toxicity. What medications is she taking? You should ask her doctor to check her blood syrum levels to make sure she isn't overmedicated (toxic).
 
Those sound like symptoms of Dilantin toxicity. What medications is she taking? You should ask her doctor to check her blood syrum levels to make sure she isn't overmedicated (toxic).
This was all before her medicine.
 
Well, then I suppose it's not med toxicity. :paperbag:
 
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