Medication doses and seizure control

[Cint]

Cint

I never said AEDs were the only thing that leads to thyroid problems.

OK, But you did say, "If a person on anti-epileptic drugs tests as having hypothyroid they are not going to be told to reduce the dose of the anti-epileptic drug and see how that works, they are going to be handed some Synthoid."

I agree with everything you said. AEDs can also create and/or worsen issues such as depression and suicidal ideation. The package insert says so, not just me.

REALLY? As if I have NEVER taken any AEDs? onder:
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For the record, I never once said that AEDS are the one and only culprit. Please don't put words in my mouth.

And I never once put words in YOUR mouth. Please don't accuse me of something I didn't do.

 

[Cint]

Cint
So, what I am asking is ..
have you ever had your BMR tested?

Yes.... I have Hypothyroidism + Type 1 Diabetes + E, so I definitely have my BMR tested every time I see my endocrinologist, like every 3-6 months. Plus the AEDs and the insulin + the Synthroid all play a delicate role. I have to be v-e-r-y careful in what I ingest, exercising and meds I take. My endocrinologist works good with my epileptologist. Sometimes my A1c is just a bit high, but he says that is ok because if we mess with it too much, it could lower my seizure threshold.

Now, how would your dr. handle all that?!

 

[epileric]

I didn't say picked on, I said poked at. Something that you, as a moderator, should be above doing. And, someone is going to get hurt if they drink bone broth? Really?
The "study" you are quoting above traces back to one guy, who just happens to run a company that sells supplements, who is a "reader of Alive magazine" and so sent in his own "data" complete with a link to his company in an "article". And it turns out he made the bone broth in the pressure cooker to speed it up. You can't rush this process. So he tells people bone broth has minimal nutrients in a magazine for health conscious people and hands them his website link to buy some supplements at the same time. That is not science. That is marketing.

Thank you for telling me how to act as a good moderator but I’ll stick with what Bernard & other moderators say. Here we have a huge group & nobody will agree 100% of the time. You seem to interpret my contradictions as being deliberately aimed at you when they are not.
You say my study traces back to someone who sells supplements.It was done by JA monro, R. Leon & BK Puri. Nice claim but please try to keep your accusations factual or at least back them up. Maybe you can show us how it traces back? Even if they did do marketing, I’m surprised you’d see that as an issue after speaking so highly of Joe Mercola.
You are right about how science is supposed to be objective but I’m surprised ulterior motives are so important when you link to the Weston Price foundation whose only goal is to spread his philosophy which has little place in the reality of what we know to be true today.

What they're for

The WAPF promotes various ideas and therapies, such as:

Homeopathy[4]
Chemophobia
Raw milk
"Natural" supplements[5]
Coconut and palm oils[6]
High-fat diets (similar to many low-carb diets)[6]
The absolutely, positively, categorically undeniable factDo You Believe That? that the modern increase in cancer rates is due to the grains in our diets[1]
Cholesterol and saturated fat[7]
Sunlight preventing melanoma[8]
"Eat only foods that will spoil, but eat them before they do."[5]
Unrefined Celtic sea salt[5]

Some of the WAPF's nutrition guidelines are very similar to those of the Cancer Control Society.[9]
What they're against

Things they don't like include:

Veganism/vegetarianism
Monosodium glutamate[3]
Soy[3]
Canola, corn, and cottonseed oil
Fluoridated water
Aspartame
"Synthetic vitamins and foods containing them"
Agave[2]
High-fructose corn syrup
Trans fat
Microwaves, polyunsaturated oils, white rice, pasteurized milk, and numerous other things.[6]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Weston_A._Price_Foundation

Did I ever say bone broth was the only and/or best source of calcium? And, bone health is not all about calcium.

Your claim was that it was good for bones and that is just not true.

Oh Eric, give it a rest. I was talking about nutrients in general which was relevant to Jen's question until she stated she had no such problems. At which point I dropped it. You kept at me about bone broth with dubious references that prove nothing. Was it really to "keep someone from getting hurt" or was it to have poke at me?

The whole stance you take shows how you feel picked on, (even if you call it "poking") and I told you that is not my intent. What you did was reply to Jen with a rant about apnea, side-effects, magnesium & vit. B deficiency. None of those have anything to do with whether a smaller dose can control seizures. Jen even brought you back to topic in blue text because you’d taken it so far off so please don’t tell me otherwise. Just the fact that you want to keep arguing about this and complain about being “poked”shows how you’d rather keep the arguing than return to the topic. I have yet to see you not need to get the last word in but maybe we should all (everyone else in this thread as well) get back to the topic of AEDs & Dosage.

 

[CathyAnn31]

This thread has gone so off topic.

Thread closed.