Question: Weird perception alteration

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Sometimes I get this overwhelming feeling that everything isn't real. It's like everything looks normal and I feel normal. I just *know* it's not real. I am aware that the thought is ridiculous, but I can't get it off my mind. Lasts for awhile and goes away. Anyone experience the same and any ideas?
 
I do, it happens from time to time. Everything seems tilted, bigger or smaller. Things just look off. But when seizures tend to pop up it, I have felt like im in a video game or a dream. That state is usually a warning I need to take a seat. Do you notice seizures after this happens?
 
No, never a seizure. I don't feel weak, and things don't change exactly. However, it's exactly like being in a vivid dream.
 
Even when seizures were under control for me I would feel like I was stuck in a dream for awhile and it would pass. It was always harder to do cognitive tasks during those times, even reading was almost impossible. Have you ever had that occur?
 
I can't remember it when I was doing anything particularly taxing other than driving a couple times, but it didn't impair my judgement or my thinking. There was no residual feeling afterward either. I wish I had written down times it had happened to give better information. Also, I don't know if my seizures are under control or not. They happen almost to the day every 6 months and I haven't been on my current medication for 6 months. I'm due at christmas for another.
 
Havok said:
Sometimes I get this overwhelming feeling that everything isn't real. It's like everything looks normal and I feel normal. I just *know* it's not real. I am aware that the thought is ridiculous, but I can't get it off my mind. Lasts for awhile and goes away. Anyone experience the same and any ideas?
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It sounds like an "aura". Sometimes folks can experience just an aura, which is actually a Simple Partial seizure. It can last a few minutes.

From http://www.epilepsy.com/EPILEPSY/AURAS

Auras vary significantly between different people. Yours may happen right before a seizure or several minutes to hours earlier. Common warning signs right before seizures are changes in bodily sensations, changes in your ability to interact with things happening outside you, and changes in how familiar the outside world seems to you. Other warning signs that may happen hours before a seizure are depression, irritability, sleep disruption, nausea, and headache
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I've done research on it several times and I end up with nothing. Same for the other things I've asked here. It's frustrating.
 
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But I've never had one of these spells before a seizure?
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That's because it could possibly be a simple partial seizure. What's the difference between a "spell" and a seizure? An aura is a simple partial seizure, and from what you described, it sounds like an aura.
 
Maybe it's because I'm out of it, but I don't see where it says an aura is a simple partial seizure and that's why I was confused. Thank you for the info :)
 
I have to say it's awesome to finally be able to ask these questions to people who know a lot about epilepsy. I hope I'm not getting on anyone's nerves :)
 
Cint said:
It sounds like an "aura". Sometimes folks can experience just an aura, which is actually a Simple Partial seizure. It can last a few minutes.

From http://www.epilepsy.com/EPILEPSY/AURAS
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thank for the info, i got validation now, im not crazy, im havinv simple partial seizures and i cant convince dr's that i am. Cint, mya I aks a questions, do they precribe aed for simple partial seizures? is it advised to take em?
 
maryltyme said:
thank for the info, i got validation now, im not crazy, im havinv simple partial seizures and i cant convince dr's that i am. Cint, mya I aks a questions, do they precribe aed for simple partial seizures? is it advised to take em?
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Maryltyme,

If you're Simple partial's are happening more, you need to let the dr. know, and yes they should prescribe a med so the seizure(s) won't increase.
 
Yeah, that sounds like jamas vu (and I probably spelled that wrong..) yep, jamais vu. I haven't had one, but I had an "aura like" deja vu 2 days before my last TC. I'd never experienced a deja vu like that before. It was powerful, if i'd been standing I would have needed to sit. I was sitting and I had to lean back.
 
Philosophically I don't think that's strange at all.
It's not real... none of it is. We experience our own neurological model of reality not 'Reality', the thing to which the word refers.If one could depend upon the deep experience of reality it's self being a true analogue to the object which that experience attempts to refer, there would be no need for any pragmatism at all, perception would be fact.

When you touch something and think you feel it you don't, you are feeling your own neurological reaction to your nerves which are reacting to what you perceive as whatever it is most useful to your survival to perceive that thing as.

I don't consider the overwhelming emotional experience or even a physical sensation which detects the fact anything to be concerned about. nothing anyone experiences is reality in any sense beyond the sense in which it is a real experience. I go through this experience you mention all the and just consider it to be an indication that I am ...thankfully not TOO Semioticaly deluded.

I recommend : Simulacra and Simulation
By Jean Baudrillard

"The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth--it is the truth which conceals that there is none.

The simulacrum is true."


Havok, I would chalk it up as the objective experience of the simulacrum.

I started a thread in "the Lounge" for those who would like to discuss Borges famous Allegory "on exactitude in science" further. http://www.coping-with-epilepsy.com/forums/f21/exactitude-science-18380/#post199809
 
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Futureghost,

I don't believe this is a philosophical issue, but a medical issue. It is real for most of us with E who have experienced "auras". IMO, this Baudrillard has lost touch with reality. Sure, when we have seizures or even auras, we temporarily lose touch with reality, but this is totally different than "simulacrum".

The truth is this:

Simulacrum (plural: simulacra), from Latin: simulacrum which means "likeness, similarity", was first recorded in the English language in the late 16th century, used to describe a representation, such as a statue or a painting, especially of a god. By the late 19th century, it had gathered a secondary association of inferiority: an image without the substance or qualities of the original.Philosopher Fredric Jameson offers photorealism as an example of artistic simulacrum, where a painting is sometimes created by copying a photograph that is itself a copy of the real. Other art forms that play with simulacra include Trompe l'oeil, Pop Art, Italian neorealism and the French New Wave.
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And more about this Baudrillard and simulacra:
http://www.cla.purdue.edu/english/theory/postmodernism/modules/baudlldsimulTnmainframe.html
ACCORDING TO BAUDRILLARD, what has happened in postmodern culture is that our society has become so reliant on models and maps that we have lost all contact with the real world that preceded the map. Reality itself has begun merely to imitate the model, which now precedes and determines the real world: "
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Cint said:
Futureghost,

I don't believe this is a philosophical issue, but a medical issue. It is real for most of us with E who have experienced "auras". IMO, this Baudrillard has lost touch with reality. Sure, when we have seizures or even auras, we temporarily lose touch with reality, but this is totally different than "simulacrum".
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You are Free to believe what you like Cint so long as you bare the discernment to differentiate between what you believe and what's objectively true, external to your own belief in it... actually YOU are free to believe what you like even if it isn't objectively true but then it's not socially conscious to claim that that belief is analogous to fact, I myself prefer to have the advantage of not having to question whether making such claims is socially conscious or not, but to each their own. A thing can be true on a personal level without being objectively true.




Cint said:
The truth is this:



And more about this Baudrillard and simulacra:
http://www.cla.purdue.edu/english/theory/postmodernism/modules/baudlldsimulTnmainframe.html
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It IS stated...does that make it true? it's true that it was stated.
i would love to discuss this more. :) we could start an appropriate thread for that so as not to hijack this one.

I do think you failed to back your assertion (is it an assertion? or just an arbitrary belief?) that Baudrillard has lost touch with reality. You say that this is what you believe but you do not say why.
 
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I'm not even going to try to understand. I've got enough to study with Chemistry and Calculus. T_T
 
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