Successful No Medicines and All Natural Seizure Treatments?

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I posted my intro post in the Foyer to get started but realized that I might need to start a post here to get any traction?

Is there anyone here in the forum doing an all natural treatment regimen for their seizures and not using any prescription medicines? It appears from reading the many, many threads that this is the least talked about area?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I try to help my relative with his seizures and his desire to not take any prescription medicines.

If you want some of his background read my post in the Foyer....

Thanks in advance to you all.

My initial post in The Foyer was called: "Just Swinging In For The First Time"
 
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Amazing to see the numbers of people on this forum and of them all the very small number of people not taking prescription medicines to control seizures? For those on meds? Did you go straight to meds or did you try the natural way first? Have you removed all additives and toxins from your diet to make sure you gave naturals a fair chance? I ask this because we are trying to quickly narrow the focus areas in order to not waste time or miss a chance to keep him seizure free.

He is completely free of all things that might be considered excitoxins in any form and is focused on maximizing sleep each night and removing distractors and things that can create chaos - TV to hard music to video games. So far he has been seizure free for 3 months after having 6 Grand Mals in as many months.

Would love to have a dialogue with any of you on this same path...... Thanks again!!! Best to everyone as you individually do what it is you feel led to do for your own situation.
 
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After being misdiagnosed 30+ years ago as having hypoglycemia, we started out down the path of no meds. After months of CP seizures, I had a horrible TC seizure on the way out of the shower. I fell and hit the hot water faucet and lie under the hot water long enough to suffer 2nd and 3rd degree burns on my back, right arm and breast. I was in the hospital 2 months and underwent numerous tests and surgeries for the burns. Since I have CP and TC seizures starting in the left hippocampus, I will never stop taking meds. And with that combination of seizures, they are much harder to control.

I also have Type 1 diabetes, so I do watch my diet and exercise. I also make sure I get my sleep. So far I've been 8 months seizure free.
 
Might I ask why your friend is so against medication?
I'm just curious of the reasoning behind it :)
 
Silat because he is a naturalist by personality and does not like to introduce un-natural things into his body - nor do I for that matter. He sees medicines as the last resort action when all else has failed. I think he thinks as many do that modern society moves to medicines to quickly without seeking more natural remedies and cures. Hope that helps?
 
Silat because he is a naturalist by personality and does not like to introduce un-natural things into his body - nor do I for that matter. He sees medicines as the last resort action when all else has failed. I think he thinks as many do that modern society moves to medicines to quickly without seeking more natural remedies and cures. Hope that helps?

Absolutely. :)
To each their own, and best of luck!
He's got a good friend in you... most would not be willing to go to the effort you've been giving to help someone else... You've got my respect.
 
Lifestyle Changes - Supplements and Other Things

I thought I would repost with amplification his lifestyle changes and what he does on a daily basis. Note - I adopted the same measures as a way of support and to help heal myself in the process of things I may not know is wrong. I must report that I feel fantastic and life is good! :) Here is the repost:

Like I said earlier - my relative is on a ketogenic diet with no artificial substances or additives at all. He is careful to not consume anything not organic or natural. He is getting 7-8 hours of uninterrupted sleep each night through the use of Melatonin (3mg) 30 minutes or so before he goes to bed. This is keeping him asleep for those 7-8 hours which seems to one of the biggest helps.

He is not playing any computer type games - something he use to do all the time. This was a struggle at first for him until he found that he could just sit and meditate and/or listen to soft music. Another big help he thinks.

As as far as supplements go? He is taking the following: Vitamin B Complex 2 x a day, Vitamin B6 2 x a day, Folate 250 mg 2 x a day, Vitamin E 400 IU 2 x a day, Krill Oil 1,000 mg 2 x a day, Magnesium Malate 500 mg 4 x a day, Magnesium L-Threonate 2,000 mg 3 x a day, Zinc 25 mg 2 x a day, and Taurine 400 mg 4 x a day. He used to take a high dose of calcium but learned that it was probably hurting him and that his blood serum levels were showing more than enough anyway (calcium is a constrictor and magnesium keeps it where it is supposed to be - in the bones mainly). He also used to take a high dose of Vitamin D3 (6-10,000 IU a day) but through testing and reading discovered that he was super high on his Vitamin D 25 levels and that he just did not need it either - he tries to sit in the sun for 20-30 minutes minimum each day if not longer. Note: He is very picky about the sources of his supplements and only buys the ones that are pure and not filled with manmade junk and artificial additives. He learned that trying to buy the cheapest at the large retail outlets or on-line stores does not always offer the chance to buy the best ones. He also learned from somewhere to soak in warm tubs several times a week in the late evenings with 2 cups of epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) and 1 cup of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to relax and to help him detox while also absorbing some magnesium into his body.

New Stuff: He has removed all fluoride from his life. No water containing it, no toothpaste or mouthwashes that have it in it! No more fluoride treatments at the dentist ever again. Stopped using a deodorant that had aluminum in it. Has switched to a natural toothpaste and deodorant as well as body soap and shampoo. All natural with no chemicals. Using only cast iron or glass cookware with wooden or stainless steel utensils. A natural laundry soap as well. He also drinks a 8 ounce glass of water a day with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and a squirt of lemon juice. This is to help bring his body to a more alkaline state from an acidic one where he was when he was actively having seizures. He has been accused by many in his social network as being too extreme but as he often tells them; "you would be doing this also if you were having seizures and you did not want to keep having them!" My thoughts are as I watch him go through this and try to be supportive and understanding that what he is doing makes sense to me when I stop and think about it. Now that I am also doing it along with him my life has gotten better and I feel great! I lost some weight and I have loads of energy. :)

I think now that he has done these things for a little while with some initial good results overall and because of his competitive spirit he wants to add or modify his regimen to include some enhancers such as Piracetam and Choline as an example but wants to know more about it form people who are using it with no prescription medicines. He and I both have found blogs where people talk about it and it all sounds promising.

Thank you again and my thoughts and prayers are with you all that are suffering with seizures also. I never knew the magnitude of the problem until he started having them and I became involved. My only word or thought is - Wow! There was no way that I was prepared for the numbers of people experiencing them. I also was not prepared for the amount of prescription medicines some people are taking to try and control their seizures or brain surgeries. I had no idea! It also seems as though the medical community does not really know but treats a lot of the times through trial and error. My relative is trying to not go down this path if possible and to share his journey of experiences in hopes of helping others. I know that I too am forever changed and connected to this.....
 
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It also seems as though the medical community does not really know but treats a lot of the times through trial and error. My relative is trying to not go down this path if possible and to share his journey of experiences in hopes of helping others. I know that I too am forever changed and connected to this.....

True, most in the medical community treat E through trial and error and don't know all there is to know about it, but this is true with many illnesses. However, there are those willing to investigate alternative treatments.

Check out this website: http://www.epilepsy.com/EPILEPSY/alternative_therapies
 
Very interesting...

When was his last seizure?

That’s one very tall all order/intake of supplements per day, seriously.....over how long of a period have these been introduced , how long been taking all of these?

Totally agree on the banning of fluoride…

baking soda, one need to be real careful with this….not to take too much.

Neuro-therapy/bio-feedback (brain training)…..one to potentially research further. My Son of 26 has been in this therapy for 7 months now…
 
Welcome! I read your original post after reading this post. I'll try not bore you too much :P I had my first medically documented grand mal while driving in 2006 at the age of 35. It was after the hurricanes in the gulf coast, after living for 4 months in its devastation, I was sick, tired, mal-nourished and very stressed.

I didn't have insurance so the treatment I had for the next couple of years was through ER's, a local income based clinic and then an internal med dr. I was put on dilantin, then tegretol and they kept putting me on anxiety meds. I had to be resusicated 3 different times after/during seizures in the next 2 years.

I stopped all meds, moved into a little house down the street from my parents, rarely saw anyone and took classes online. I like school so that wasn't overly stressful. I gardened, rarely drove and acquired a beagle that learned to pick up on when I was going to seize. I know more now then I did then about epilepsy and my condition. But during those two years I only suffered nocturnals and partials.

I am a picky eater. I don't eat fast food or fried food. I garden and was able to can and eat alot of fresh vegetables during that time. I eat chicken breast, turkey, beef occasionally, lot of vegetables and some fruit. I stopped drinking caff coffee and have maybe a cup of decaf a day. I don't drink soda, ocassionally a half of a 7-up if my stomach is upset. No msg, no seasonings except pepper and salt. Many seasonings stimulate the brain, esp those in my beloved italian sauces. :( I don't drink alcohol and I don't use drugs. I drink a ton of water. I also try to not let my blood sugar get too low.

Once I got insurance I had everything tested. And ordered my medical records from everywhere. I suffered a head trauma as a child. I have mtle with hippocampal sclerosis, which the drs suspect came from the childhood tbi.

I've also been tracking everything in my life for a year and a half. My eye dr tinted my prescription eye glasses, I have my computers set to low brightness and I watch precious little tv. I also used to be an avid chic gamer but am no longer able to handle the graphics. I am photosensitive.

I have an autoimmune disorder and went into premature perimenopause the same year the seizures began and the drs suspect premature ovarian failure. Once there was another change in my female stuff I had my first t/c in 2 years and they put me on keppra. I almost killed myself during the fall.

The epilepsy center recommended epilepsy surgery for me but at this point I can't afford it and I am not ready.

Due to the childhood head bashing I took I can't hear in my left ear but sounds vibrate off of the dislocated bones and cause seizures. So I also have issues with noise, crowds and certain voice types. Like my dads deep voice :P

Soooo, I read all food labels and try to keep it as natural and simple as possible. Sugar and chocolate cause migraines for me, as do some other things. I rarely leave the house, the house has to stay at 65 degrees, the heat kills me. I take my keppra, a multi-vitamin and d3-5000. I walk my treadmill a couple times a week and can handle some soothing music. I like Cat Stevens while on the treadmill.

The catamenial epilepsy is giving me alot of grief at the moment. Probs sleeping, hot flashes, etc. Under my current circumstances I am averaging a mix of 4.6 partials and nocturals a week. But at least I am not eating the floor with t/c falls. The stress of buying the house, moving, etc this spring has my annual avg at 7.8 a week.

You will find many friends here with a variety of situations and tons of information. I think most will agree that with E it's an individual trial and error situation.

I hope you both get comfortable here and enjoy the company. Best of luck with your research and experimenting.
 
Chaz1 -

It is a tall order no doubt and as you well know also. But what is the alternative? Turn to medicines first for him and in his specific case? He does not think so. I think the key is sustainability and getting the foundation reset. Once that is done and a balance point is achieved then a re-eval to see what should be the specific supplements and the dosage. Understand on the Baking Soda - why he only takes 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon per day. Acknowledge the brain training. He is considering it as we research the different ones and the one best suited for him if it gets to that point. As I stated in a earlier post he ha snow been seizure free for 3 months after a hail storm of them. Thanks for your comments and best wishes with your son and his journey.
 
Thank u and we wish you(s) so very much the same - a safe journey....

Can’t help but think - so much V and mineral supplements going on...do understand reset with long term kept FRONT of mind....

Eli rightly mentioned, each and every one of us is unique...one of a kind...

we SURE do learn from each other...sharing….
 
Chaz1 - Appreciate the comments and concerns. What I did not state very well is the in-depth mineral and vitamin testing he has had done. Not the normal, standard blood serum tests that do not really tell anything but ionized electrolyte testing, special blood tests, urine testing, and skin/hair analysis. His understanding of where his body is on the in-balances are pretty good at this point. It is also why he is not taking any D3 or Calcium if you noticed that they were not in his daily dosages.

He will be adding Piracetam and Choline in the next week as well.
 
Hmm, have wanted to go private blood analysis and now going to look into this...serious.

I can’t help but being shocked at the amounts of suplements.

dinner tonight we had good conversation of gut to brain connection…….
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Al my Sons seizures start in his gut and some result in T/C and some remain at partial, the nocturnals well don’t know....

Robin has touched on this subject heavily on CWE and heading back for more reading (to point of seizure control for her daughter)...
 
My comments back to you based on our research and experience so far is that who sets the levels that seem normal or extreme? Our bodies do - not man. It is about proper testing to understand baselines and then aggressive actions to get the foundation solid again. It is just not supplements either. We believe that people are missing it when they do not take note of the toxins in their daily lives from the environment they live in and the foods and liquids they consume. To think that one works without the other seems to be a failure from the beginning. Much like how he has approached this by only using natural means to attack his problem. Supplements go with nutrition that go with environment - that go with physical exercise........ All interconnected and not isolated.

Lastly I would offer that true healing such as required for him and others having neurological issues does not come overnight. It did not happen overnight - there was a path of things that got it to a breaking point. Identifying these "things" is the first before healing can begin. In his/our case we are very suspect of man and his opinion. I say this because one has to ask what is the true motive when one offers help or advice even us on the forum? The vast majority of modern medical practitioners are not there to actually heal completely these days due to big business, big pharma, and big insurance restrictions on them. The almighty dollar drives the treatment..... Just something to ponder. Understand the tests you need and where to get them and how to interpret them yourselves. Start with your own understanding first!!! Best wishes to all......... Take control and walk your path to your destiny. Fulfill it!!! :)
 
To be aware – been my upbringing.

Uncontrolled seizures can and do kill and that fact that we must acknowledge.

Seizure control is what we all looking for…… may the 3 months turn to 30 years, then 60 and some….

Keep sharing..
 
Neurologist Going Natural First?

After reading tons of posts on the forum I was wondering if anyone has ever had their neurologist go natural for them at first? In simple terms to not prescribe medications at first and instead outline a natural regimen for supplements and other supporting things from diet to lifestyle? If so did it work and if so what were their recommendations? If not then did they modify it and keep working with you or did they prescribe medicines?

Thanks in advance....
 
Screamy - I would be extremely interested in your thoughts and what and how you are doing with your past and present treatments? Thanks!
 
I was wondering if anyone has ever had their neurologist go natural for them at first?
I think for a variety of reasons, this is pretty rare. Neurologists are not taught about a gut-brain connection -- they are taught about the meds. The exception might be places like the Johns Hopkins Center that helps folks use approaches like the ketogenic or Modified Atkins diets.
 
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