There is a cure for epilepsy...

[RobinN]

I've been advised against drinking orange juice in any amount

Can you elaborate on this comment. I am not understanding it in relationship to the thread.
Are you allergic to oranges?

 

[Shelley]

I found

this while browsing for magnesium info.
http://www.mg12.info/index.html
I don't know if it is of any help. I do seem to have developed a rash. I'm guessing from the magnesium I am taking. Although, it is preferable to seizures.:twocents:

 

[Bernard]

Can you elaborate on this comment. I am not understanding it in relationship to the thread.

The original post on the thread recommended drinking epsom salt in orange juice.

... I do seem to have developed a rash. I'm guessing from the magnesium I am taking. ...

I don't recall seeing a rash listed as a possible consequence of taking too much magnesium. Are you also experiecing loose stools (which is a consequence of taking too much magnesium)?

 

[Shelley]

Deficiency and imbalance diseases, magnesium, Vitamin D, sea salt, diet and health

Found this while looking for a link between Magnesium and vitamin D. Not surprising I'd find something about calcium as well.

http://www.curezone.com/foods/calcium.html

 

[pete]

Well done "googly" ( page 4.) Re lack of magnesium. I suffer from about 80% on that list as well as sz's. Who sets the r.d.a? Who"s to say the recommended dose of vits/minerals is correct? Whats right for some may not be for others, it"s not law. Would doc"s/profs/researchers in epilepsy risk there well paid jobs by telling you about a simple cure? Who knows! My doc says he has an interest in epilepsy but does nothing about it and the prof"s even worse, they get paid "anyway" in the UK. Action speaks louder than words in my book. Or I"m I being cynical/bitter or a realist/tell it like it is? It" gotta worth trying experimenting with vits/minerals (within reason). I know I will. P.S. I"ve learned more from this site that I ever have from professionals. To whoever is running this site, "good for you."

 

[Shelley]

Zyrtec rash

Just saw the doc. On new meds and 'feeling alright. uh, huh'.

 

[RobinN]

Well done "googly" ( page 4.) Re lack of magnesium. I suffer from about 80% on that list as well as sz's. Who sets the r.d.a? Who"s to say the recommended dose of vits/minerals is correct? Whats right for some may not be for others, it"s not law. Would doc"s/profs/researchers in epilepsy risk there well paid jobs by telling you about a simple cure? Who knows! My doc says he has an interest in epilepsy but does nothing about it and the prof"s even worse, they get paid "anyway" in the UK. Action speaks louder than words in my book. Or I"m I being cynical/bitter or a realist/tell it like it is? It" gotta worth trying experimenting with vits/minerals (within reason). I know I will. P.S. I"ve learned more from this site that I ever have from professionals. To whoever is running this site, "good for you."

Pete, I have been working with magnesium for a few years now. Reading as much as I can on the mineral. My daughter is also told to take a high dose for her seizures.

The RDA is 400 mg however, on many medical websites you will see many beginning to question that amount as being too low. I say, start with that and then begin to slowly increase it until you see the side effects that are discussed. No different than increasing a pharmaceutical drug. Always important to go slowly. And don't change anything else in your system at the same time, so you get straight forward results.

There are a few things to consider though with something like magnesium. You might find one particular type easier on your system, better absorbed, than another. So I wouldn't give up if one type doesn't do the trick. It has worked wonders on my 30 yrs of intense migraine activity. I have not had one in over 3 yrs. ... unless I get goofy and don't take the magnesium regularly.

BTW - Rebecca takes 1000 mg each day and she is about 120 lbs

 

[C0urt]

last time i ate spinach i am pretty sure it cleared the meds out out my system, was not happy about the following trip to the hospital.

shame because i love spinach to. same thing happen when i drank green tea, spent some time in the er.

 

[Idahoseashell]

I was wondering, which types of meds are you taking that is being eliminated by spinach and green tea?

 

[Azusa]

My doctor said I am SOL, so I gave up all hope. :clap:

 

[C0urt]

I was wondering, which types of meds are you taking that is being eliminated by spinach and green tea?

this was a bit back, think i was on topomax still

 

[C0urt]

My doctor said I am SOL, so I gave up all hope. :clap:

dont worry my neuro said the same thing. but i did meet one who is stuck on surgey in a bar a few nights ago,but i think i may pass. docs with spoons is a bit of a of a turn off

 

[FutureAndAHope]

interest In Magnesium

Hi,

My friend has epilepsy, I sought God for ways to cure it. I can't be 100% sure the theory I developed is true, but a part of the theory involves the use of Magnesium, and Salt.

The theory is that many forms of sezures are blood related. Many forms of sezures occur when blood starvation occurs in the brain. These can occur, during a blood test, low blood pressure, drinking alchahol, wounding, eclampsia at child birth. All of these sezures occur when blood supply is lacking or poor. My theory, and I say it is a theory, is that epilepsy is the brains natural defence against lack of blood supply to the brain. When blood supply becomes low, nutrient starvation the body triggers off a mecanism to cause the body to lie flat to resupply the brain with energy. Brain dammage acts as a blood clot in the brain restricting blood flow to parts of the brain, dead cells make it harder for blood to flow through the brain. So when blood pressure drops, and energy is ruduced because of this the brain triggers a fit.

My theory is that increases in Salt (Sodium), to increase blood pressure, pushing blood through the brain. And an intake of Magnesium to increase the creation of brain energy, and creation of new blood cells. Could help to cure some forms of epilepsy.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Details on this theory

A few years ago I was seeking God for cures to illness scientifically. I would pray and ask God to show me about how the illness worked and how to cure it. My fried John has epilepsy so I prayed about it. As I prayed I kneeled down and asked God what to do. A voice spoke to me and said “Stand up I love people”, and the words, "Tryglycerides", and "Sodium Magnate" entered my mind. A vision followed seconds after and I saw my friend John drunk and looking awful. It did not make a lot of sense to me. I looked up the word Tryglycertides, and Sodium Magnate. Tryglycerides was a real medical word, but I could find nothing on Solium Magnate, but from this point I started my research. I also at a latter date saw two pipes, one was blocked and blood was not flowing through it, the other pipe had normal blood flow. What I did was to focus the research on the effect of blood flow on epilepsy. I found out that Epilepsy is not just caused by brain damage but rather can be caused by irregular blood flow. During this research I actually met a girl at the bus stop who had Epilepsy, she had no brain damage, but took fits, she was diagnosed with abnormally low blood pressure, she also had fits when drinking alchahol. The effect of blood flow on Epilepsy is discussed below. After doing all my research the conclusion I came to was that Epilepsy is the bodies attempt to return blood supply to the brain, that a fit causes the body to lie flat so there is less gravitational pressure on the blood flow. When the brain senses a lack of nutrients to key areas, it shuts down the body using a fit, to resupply the brain. I see it as a normal function of the brain that inappropriately triggers. I will provide evidence to back this theory in this post. However I can not be 100% certain that this theory is correct, it would need to be tested. Below is the evidence supporting this view, and finally how Sodium Magnate and Tryglycerides may help. As for brain damage causing epilepsy I see it as acting as a localised blood clot, slowing movement of blood to the brain.

Evidence that blood supply is linked to fitting.
After completing my research, I found that the Manchester Heart Centre in the United Kingdom had done research that showed that many cases of epilepsy are blood related not a brain disorder, and they were concerned about misdiagnosis. I agree with their findings:
"Syncope is a situation where there's a sudden, abrupt loss of blood supply to the brain, with resultant loss of consciousness and collapse. And it is recognised that commonly such a collapse can be complicated by abnormal movements: thrashing of the limbs and so forth, sometimes facial automatisms, which are very, very difficult to distinguish from epilepsy, even for a specialist observer", said Adam Fitzpatrick of the Manchester Heart Centre (Epilepsy Misdiagnosis, Normal Swan, ABC radio National, 1999)
"Amongst the concerns is that some patients may receive anti-convulsant medication inappropriately, and that might have harmful effects. Some of the anti-convulsant agents, particularly the older ones, have unpleasant side effects", said Adam Fitzpatrick of the Manchester Heart Centre (Epilepsy Misdiagnosis, Normal Swan, ABC radio National, 1999).

Fitting Can be Caused by Poor Blood Flow
So what other evidence is there that epilepsy or more correctly fitting is related to blood flow. The following is a list of epileptic type symptoms in people with no brain damage, the following times fitting can occur:
•

• After or during a Blood Test. Having taken a fit during a blood test myself, and being found to have no brain damage, I know this can occur in healthy people.
• Eclampsia (blood loss, tiring, and irregular heart beat during child birth) which has been shown to have a strong correlation to cardiovascular disease
• During Physical Injury and Trauma, blood redirected or lost at a wound site
• Water on the Brain
• Elderly People and old pet dogs that previously did not fit
• Blood Clots
• Naturally low blood pressure

We see all these instances where healthy people can fit, are can be linked to blood loss or can be put down to lower heart function. In a blood test blood is removed resulting in temporarily less blood, and slightly lower blood pressure. Eclampsia, or fitting at child birth is accompanied by blood loss, and irregular heart beat, and has been shown to occur more frequently in people with cardiovascular disease. Wounding results in blood loss, and lower blood pressure. Blood clots restrict blood flow. Naturally low blood pressure is a disease where the person has abnormally low blood pressure, some of these people take fits.

So I am suggesting that reduced blood flow can cause fitting. So how does brain damage relate to blood flow. When a person has suffered brain damage some of the cellular pathways used to supply nutrients to the brain no longer function as they do in a healthy person, they die leaving scare tissue, or become broken or fractured. Having healed either incorrectly, or some pathways ceasing to operate at all. The cellular pathways also act like a complex network of pipes in the transfer of blood and glucose, used to perform brain function, by supplying chemicals for brain reactions. We have seen slight drops in blood pressure are possibly related to fitting, so it is possible the distribution of blood around brain damage could be reduced and act as a blood clot. Brain damage becomes like a permanent blood clot in the brain, requiring more blood pressure to get the feul to the brain.

My theory, and I say that again theory, not fact, is that when the brain becomes starved of nutrients a fit occurs. The reason I believe it could be nutrient starvation is due to something a person told me about their husband and fitting. He took fits when drinking beer, but did not fit when drinking rum. You will find rum has 6 times more calories than a standard beer. So when the blood has more nutrients it prevented fitting in this case.

So what could help reduce fitting
Increased Brain Energy
If it turns out to be true that nutrient starvation to the brain is the cause of fitting, then increased blood energy, and brain food could help to reduce fitting.

One word I got when I prayed was TriGlycerides. I am not sure whether TriGlycerides are a good or bad thing with regard to a blood flow, energy balance. TriGlyceride releases much more energy into the blood preventing tiredness, a symptom preceding and accompanying low heart function, as it releases "twice as much energy into the blood as does as carbohydrates and proteins" (Wiki, TriGlyceride 2007) specifically brain food glucose when broken down by glycerol. Blood starvation to the brain I believe can be overcome by enriching the percentage of available energy in the blood, but having increased levels of TriGlycerides may not be wise. Too many TriGlycerides can cause the clogging of ateries, which would be counter productive in regard to blood flow. One thing that may be useful if this theory is correct is to monitor TriGlycerides excessively low levels would mean a need for more food, and energy intake, levels that are too high are also probably counter productive.

Energy release form TriGlycerided is important to this theory. Elevated levels of amino acids increase Glucagon to break down TriGlycerides, as would be seen after consumption of a protein-rich meal. Foods with amino acids are the building blocks of protein. That means they are responsible for strength, repair and rebuilding inside your body. Your tissues, your cells, your enzymes and your brain all get their nourishment and protection from amino acids. Studies have shown that the best way to get all the essential amino acids not made by the humans is to eat animal protein. Meat, eggs, and dairy are the most common sources of these important building blocks. You could also consider taking an amino acid suppliment.

As I mentioned previously, a person I was told about has epileptic fits during alchahol (beer) consumption, but not when drinking rum, not being an alchahol drinker I looked up some nutrition information from a site rum apparently has 6 times more calories than a standard beer per ounce. e.g. 10c compared to 64c, per 1 fl oz, or 64c / 12c 1 fl oz (Calories in Alcoholic beverage, 2007). As they are both similar in substance, but one distilled, with more energy. This further shows additional to our initial research that energy is a primary factor in reducing the likely hood of a fit. I doubt the person is doing any thing different when drinking beer than when drinking rum, watching TV or at the pub, should be at church more fun any way, I.e. a factor is the available energy.

Adiquate levels of Magnesium are also needed for energy production. A study, published in the March 2001 issue of the journal "Brain Research Bulletin," reveals that low levels of magnesium ions in brain tissue lead to reduced production of energy.

So basically any method to increase brain energy would be benificial.

Sodium Magnate
Sodium Magnate is not a real chemical, but its name implies the mixture of Sodium (Salt) and Magnesium.

The Use of Salt
If my theory is correct, increased blood pressure would help to get blood to areas of the brain damaged by brain injury due to more pressure forcing blood through restricted blood flow pathways. An increase in Sodium increases blood pressure. Also increasing blood pressure via the bodies natural metabolism, and heart strength, via exercise could be beneficial. Also drink lots of nonalcoholic fluids. Limit alcoholic beverages.

The Use of Magnesium
Magnesium has been known to reduce fitting in women during childbirth, and is also know to be important in the creation of new blood cells, and is important in energy creation. There is also a theory that people with epilepsy are often Magnesium deficient. See below:

• Can prevent cardiac arrhythmia irregular heart beat.
• Treatment (and sometimes prevention) of seizures in eclampsia, for which it is the most effective therapy (Wiki, eclampsia, 2007). As a note we believe that eclampsia is caused by the loss of blood caused during child birth.
• Cardiology Branch, National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892 (National Institutes of Health, 1990) investigated the role of extracellular magnesium on capillary endothelial cell migration and proliferation, i.e. creation of new blood cells, components of endothelial cell function that play an important role in angiogenesis and wound healing. Cell proliferation was also inhibited by very low magnesium concentration.
• The following post appeared on an epilepsy forum regarding the possible stoping of their sezuires due to Magnesium. The post follows: Have any of you tried magnesium supplements and found them to be helpful? I have been doing some research and come across a theory that many people with epilepsy are magnesium-deficient. I realized that I have not had a seizure for 9 months, and I have been taking Rolaids for the past year. I have been taking them for the calcium content, but they also contain magnesium. Any thought on this?
• Individuals with low levels of magnesium in the muscles use up more energy even during moderate physical activity and, therefore, tire easily, according to a study conducted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The researchers of the study suggest that low dietary intake of magnesium reduces the level of the mineral in the blood and muscles and can lead to poor athletic performance. Another study, published in the March 2001 issue of the journal "Brain Research Bulletin," reveals that low levels of magnesium ions in brain tissue lead to reduced production of energy and may cause the headaches associated with migraines. Some animal studies, such as the one published in the March 2009 issue of the journal "Applied Physiology, Nutrition and Metabolism," reaffirm that magnesium supplements may improve blood energy metabolism and exercise performance.

So that is it, it is possible that the word given to me in prayer “Sodium Magnate”, refers to a medication that increases blood pressure, boosts energy creation, and increase creation of new blood cells. There is enough evidence to suggest that Epilepsy could be related to blood flow. So in theory it is possible Epilepsy is the bodies way of trying to get blood to the brain easier, by removing the gravitation downward force on blood flow, by causing a person to lie horizontally, in an attempt to supply more energy to the brain when low levels are detected.

 

[Shelley]

I think you need to do better research. All I see is confirmation bias.
In other words, you chose the research that propped up your idea. (It's not a theory by any real definition.)

 

[Chaz1]

but

Its darn interesting read! Thank u FutureAndAHope

“So I am suggesting that reduced blood flow can cause fitting”


you know, we working with naturopath, who is doing just this, improving blood flow to my Son brain and decreasing brain slime......

we even visited my Son naturopath today, and we still on this route - improving blood flow to his brain and decreasing brain slime (along with overall metabolism healing)...why, becasue tests confirm, its needed.

we are huge magnesium users in our house...........magnesium chloride, we IM(humble)O a must.....in fact an easy one....

 

[epileric]

part 1

A few years ago I was seeking God for cures to illness scientifically. I would pray and ask God to show me about how the illness worked and how to cure it. My fried John has epilepsy so I prayed about it. As I prayed I kneeled down and asked God what to do. A voice spoke to me and said “Stand up I love people”, and the words, "Tryglycerides", and "Sodium Magnate" entered my mind. A vision followed seconds after and I saw my friend John drunk and looking awful. It did not make a lot of sense to me. I looked up the word Tryglycertides, and Sodium Magnate. Tryglycerides was a real medical word, but I could find nothing on Solium Magnate, but from this point I started my research. I also at a latter date saw two pipes, one was blocked and blood was not flowing through it, the other pipe had normal blood flow. What I did was to focus the research on the effect of blood flow on epilepsy. I found out that Epilepsy is not just caused by brain damage but rather can be caused by irregular blood flow. During this research I actually met a girl at the bus stop who had Epilepsy, she had no brain damage, but took fits, she was diagnosed with abnormally low blood pressure, she also had fits when drinking alchahol. The effect of blood flow on Epilepsy is discussed below. After doing all my research the conclusion I came to was that Epilepsy is the bodies attempt to return blood supply to the brain, that a fit causes the body to lie flat so there is less gravitational pressure on the blood flow. When the brain senses a lack of nutrients to key areas, it shuts down the body using a fit, to resupply the brain. I see it as a normal function of the brain that inappropriately triggers. I will provide evidence to back this theory in this post. However I can not be 100% certain that this theory is correct, it would need to be tested. Below is the evidence supporting this view, and finally how Sodium Magnate and Tryglycerides may help. As for brain damage causing epilepsy I see it as acting as a localised blood clot, slowing movement of blood to the brain.

A “fit” does not make the body lie flat to lessen gravitational pressure on blood flow. First of all of that were true then all epileptics would have convulsive seizures & they don’t. The majority are partial non-convulsive seizures so that assumption doesn’t apply. Secondly, when convulsing people do not lie flat, they are busy flailing and third, we are built in a way that makes it easy for blood to circulate with minimal gravitational resistance. If there was more force to fight gravity then we’d feel the blood rushing to our heads and feet every time we lay down to sleep.

Evidence that blood supply is linked to fitting.
After completing my research, I found that the Manchester Heart Centre in the United Kingdom had done research that showed that many cases of epilepsy are blood related not a brain disorder, and they were concerned about misdiagnosis. I agree with their findings:
"Syncope is a situation where there's a sudden, abrupt loss of blood supply to the brain, with resultant loss of consciousness and collapse. And it is recognised that commonly such a collapse can be complicated by abnormal movements: thrashing of the limbs and so forth, sometimes facial automatisms, which are very, very difficult to distinguish from epilepsy, even for a specialist observer", said Adam Fitzpatrick of the Manchester Heart Centre (Epilepsy Misdiagnosis, Normal Swan, ABC radio National, 1999)

"Amongst the concerns is that some patients may receive anti-convulsant medication inappropriately, and that might have harmful effects. Some of the anti-convulsant agents, particularly the older ones, have unpleasant side effects", said Adam Fitzpatrick of the Manchester Heart Centre (Epilepsy Misdiagnosis, Normal Swan, ABC radio National, 1999).

What you are saying is that because something looks similar to a seizure (fit) then it must be the same or related & that is not true. Even in your quote it said that it can be “difficult to distinguish from epilepsy” meaning that it is NOT epilepsy and that some patients might inappropriately receive anticonvulsants.

Fitting Can be Caused by Poor Blood Flow
So what other evidence is there that epilepsy or more correctly fitting is related to blood flow. The following is a list of epileptic type symptoms in people with no brain damage, the following times fitting can occur:
•

• After or during a Blood Test. Having taken a fit during a blood test myself, and being found to have no brain damage, I know this can occur in healthy people.
• Eclampsia (blood loss, tiring, and irregular heart beat during child birth) which has been shown to have a strong correlation to cardiovascular disease
• During Physical Injury and Trauma, blood redirected or lost at a wound site
• Water on the Brain
• Elderly People and old pet dogs that previously did not fit
• Blood Clots
• Naturally low blood pressure

We see all these instances where healthy people can fit, are can be linked to blood loss or can be put down to lower heart function. In a blood test blood is removed resulting in temporarily less blood, and slightly lower blood pressure. Eclampsia, or fitting at child birth is accompanied by blood loss, and irregular heart beat, and has been shown to occur more frequently in people with cardiovascular disease. Wounding results in blood loss, and lower blood pressure. Blood clots restrict blood flow. Naturally low blood pressure is a disease where the person has abnormally low blood pressure, some of these people take fits.

So I am suggesting that reduced blood flow can cause fitting. So how does brain damage relate to blood flow. When a person has suffered brain damage some of the cellular pathways used to supply nutrients to the brain no longer function as they do in a healthy person, they die leaving scare tissue, or become broken or fractured. Having healed either incorrectly, or some pathways ceasing to operate at all. The cellular pathways also act like a complex network of pipes in the transfer of blood and glucose, used to perform brain function, by supplying chemicals for brain reactions. We have seen slight drops in blood pressure are possibly related to fitting, so it is possible the distribution of blood around brain damage could be reduced and act as a blood clot. Brain damage becomes like a permanent blood clot in the brain, requiring more blood pressure to get the feul to the brain.

First off you have to remember that you listed many things that might cause a seizure but that does not mean they are epileptic seizures which may have very different causes & properties.

However, not all epileptic seizures lead to convulsions, and not all convulsions are caused by epileptic seizures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convulsion

You are assuming that because loss of blood might trigger a seizure in non-epileptics that increasing blood flow can cure epileptics. Just because that is 1 thing that causes seizures doesn’t mean that increasing blood flow is a cure for epilepsy besides, You have to remember that lot of other things can cause seizures too.
No research says cardiovascular disease occurs more in epileptics though CV disease can aggravate seizures in people with epilepsy. Don’t assume that one means the other. http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/cardiac.html

Also, irregular heart beat is a symptom of a seizure. It is not the irregular heartbeat that causes the seizures.
What you said about people healing incorrectly or cellular pathways ceasing to operate at all is so far from the reality of human biology that I suggest you take an introductory biology course to understand how off base your claim is.

My theory, and I say that again theory, not fact, is that when the brain becomes starved of nutrients a fit occurs. The reason I believe it could be nutrient starvation is due to something a person told me about their husband and fitting. He took fits when drinking beer, but did not fit when drinking rum. You will find rum has 6 times more calories than a standard beer. So when the blood has more nutrients it prevented fitting in this case.

So far that is simply anecdotal evidence. I can’t help but feel that your friend prefers rum over beer. You have to remember that how we perceive things as working depends on our preferences.
You have to realise that just because your friend had a seizure after drinking beer doesn’t mean it was the beer that caused it & just because he didn’t have a seizure after drinking rum doesn’t mean that there was something in the rum suppressing the seizure either. Those are pretty big assumptions that you have not validated.
Also, Remember that going through alcohol withdrawal can cause seizures so abstaining for too long after having the beer might have been the cause of the seizure, not the beer itself. That’s just 1 of a million other things that might have cause a seizure that day.

So what could help reduce fitting
Increased Brain Energy
If it turns out to be true that nutrient starvation to the brain is the cause of fitting, then increased blood energy, and brain food could help to reduce fitting.

This is so wrong- a seizure is caused when a firing neuron misfires & “trips” then rebounds. Increasing neural energy & making those neurons fire faster is going to increase the likelihood of seizures, not decrease them. You have to realise that a seizure itself is when neurons fire with too much energy

if the discharge of electrical energy has sufficient power and affects enough neurons, it will produce symptoms characteristic of the area in which the discharge took place. The result could be a sudden muscle jerk, an abrupt fall, a distorted vision. If the disturbance flashes across the whole brain at once, it could produce a convulsive seizure, temporarily disrupting many of the functions of the brain.

http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/aboutepilepsy/whatisepilepsy/science/seizuremechanisms.cfm

One word I got when I prayed was TriGlycerides. I am not sure whether TriGlycerides are a good or bad thing with regard to a blood flow, energy balance. TriGlyceride releases much more energy into the blood preventing tiredness, a symptom preceding and accompanying low heart function, as it releases "twice as much energy into the blood as does as carbohydrates and proteins" (Wiki, TriGlyceride 2007) specifically brain food glucose when broken down by glycerol. Blood starvation to the brain I believe can be overcome by enriching the percentage of available energy in the blood, but having increased levels of TriGlycerides may not be wise. Too many TriGlycerides can cause the clogging of ateries, which would be counter productive in regard to blood flow. One thing that may be useful if this theory is correct is to monitor TriGlycerides excessively low levels would mean a need for more food, and energy intake, levels that are too high are also probably counter productive.

You’re right that triglycerides are fats that store energy and have even been used in a specific diet to help childrens seizures but we get enough triglycerides. Overall, we actually have been eating too many & that’s why we get fat which drains us of energy & lessens circulation.

 

[epileric]

part 2

Energy release form TriGlycerided is important to this theory. Elevated levels of amino acids increase Glucagon to break down TriGlycerides, as would be seen after consumption of a protein-rich meal. Foods with amino acids are the building blocks of protein. That means they are responsible for strength, repair and rebuilding inside your body. Your tissues, your cells, your enzymes and your brain all get their nourishment and protection from amino acids. Studies have shown that the best way to get all the essential amino acids not made by the humans is to eat animal protein. Meat, eggs, and dairy are the most common sources of these important building blocks. You could also consider taking an amino acid suppliment.

Glucagon is a hormone that counteracts insulin levels & doesn’t allow sugar levels in the blood to lower. If we do what we can to increase glucagon production we will start to see a large increase in the number of diabetics. I would strongly suggest not doing this.

As I mentioned previously, a person I was told about has epileptic fits during alchahol (beer) consumption, but not when drinking rum, not being an alchahol drinker I looked up some nutrition information from a site rum apparently has 6 times more calories than a standard beer per ounce. e.g. 10c compared to 64c, per 1 fl oz, or 64c / 12c 1 fl oz (Calories in Alcoholic beverage, 2007). As they are both similar in substance, but one distilled, with more energy. This further shows additional to our initial research that energy is a primary factor in reducing the likely hood of a fit. I doubt the person is doing any thing different when drinking beer than when drinking rum, watching TV or at the pub, should be at church more fun any way, I.e. a factor is the available energy.

Adiquate levels of Magnesium are also needed for energy production. A study, published in the March 2001 issue of the journal "Brain Research Bulletin," reveals that low levels of magnesium ions in brain tissue lead to reduced production of energy.

Some people do make that claim but there is no evidence that it helps people with epilepsy. Actually they have found that some epileptics have excess Magnesium in their cerebrospinal fluid. In those cases increasing their intake might not be a good thing. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022510X79901394

So basically any method to increase brain energy would be benificial.

Like I said before, increasing brain energy would increase seizures

Sodium Magnate
Sodium Magnate is not a real chemical, but its name implies the mixture of Sodium (Salt) and Magnesium.

If there is no such thing then why do you bring it up? Also, Sodium is not salt. I’m assuming you were referring to Sodium Chloride

The Use of Salt
If my theory is correct, increased blood pressure would help to get blood to areas of the brain damaged by brain injury due to more pressure forcing blood through restricted blood flow pathways. An increase in Sodium increases blood pressure. Also increasing blood pressure via the bodies natural metabolism, and heart strength, via exercise could be beneficial. Also drink lots of nonalcoholic fluids. Limit alcoholic beverages.

High blood pressure does not mean more blood is flowing to the brain or any part of the body, it just means that the blood vessels are under more pressure that can do them damage. As well, it makes people more susceptible to stress & anxiety which epileptics should try to minimise.

The Use of Magnesium
Magnesium has been known to reduce fitting in women during childbirth, and is also know to be important in the creation of new blood cells, and is important in energy creation. There is also a theory that people with epilepsy are often Magnesium deficient. See below:

• Can prevent cardiac arrhythmia irregular heart beat.

• 
  
  Being able to prevent cardiac arrhythmia has no reason to think it will help epilepsy. It may occur during a seizure but it does not cause seizures nor is there any indication that it is associated to epilepsy in any other way.
  
  

  [*]Treatment (and sometimes prevention) of seizures in eclampsia, for which it is the most effective therapy (Wiki, eclampsia, 2007). As a note we believe that eclampsia is caused by the loss of blood caused during child birth.
  [*]Cardiology Branch, National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892 (National Institutes of Health, 1990) investigated the role of extracellular magnesium on capillary endothelial cell migration and proliferation, i.e. creation of new blood cells, components of endothelial cell function that play an important role in angiogenesis and wound healing. Cell proliferation was also inhibited by very low magnesium concentration.

  
  Eclampsia usually refers to people without epilepsy. Just because something helps prevent a seizure in non-epileptics when giving birth does not mean it will help epileptics whose seizures have a totally different cause. Also, just because low magnesium levels may inhibit cell proliferation does not mean it will help epilepsy any more than it will help a stubbed toe. You will notice that the word epilepsy is not even mentioned once in your studies so I see no relevance.
  
  
  

  [*]The following post appeared on an epilepsy forum regarding the possible stoping of their sezuires due to Magnesium. The post follows: Have any of you tried magnesium supplements and found them to be helpful? I have been doing some research and come across a theory that many people with epilepsy are magnesium-deficient. I realized that I have not had a seizure for 9 months, and I have been taking Rolaids for the past year. I have been taking them for the calcium content, but they also contain magnesium. Any thought on this?

  
  My thoughts are that forums are nice places to interact but I think it’s silly to think that anyone without training or understanding of human biology can say anything & have their claims given the same weight as a doctors advice. Also anyone can say anything on a forum so I don’t agree when people say that what someone said on a forum is proof of something. I am also suspicious when people online say they use the term “research” when really they’ve just been web surfing with as little access or understanding to properly written books or training as anyone else might have.
  
  

  [*]Individuals with low levels of magnesium in the muscles use up more energy even during moderate physical activity and, therefore, tire easily, according to a study conducted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The researchers of the study suggest that low dietary intake of magnesium reduces the level of the mineral in the blood and muscles and can lead to poor athletic performance. Another study, published in the March 2001 issue of the journal "Brain Research Bulletin," reveals that low levels of magnesium ions in brain tissue lead to reduced production of energy and may cause the headaches associated with migraines. Some animal studies, such as the one published in the March 2009 issue of the journal "Applied Physiology, Nutrition and Metabolism," reaffirm that magnesium supplements may improve blood energy metabolism and exercise performance.

  
  First, a study on animals does not prove anything in humans. Secondly your own quote says it “may improve blood metabolism”. “May” is not very definite & there is no such thing as “blood energy metabolism”.
  Again, you do show that low magnesium levels are not healthy & that may be true but just because low levels cause poor athletic performance or reduced energy does not mean that it is likely to cause neural misfiring (seizures). There is one type of migraine that is associated with epilepsy but even if that kind of migraine is triggered by low magnesium levels that does not mean that all seizures are caused by low levels of magnesium or that higher than normal levels will prevent seizures. Remember that having levels too high of any mineral are just as unhealthy as having levels that are too low.
  

So that is it, it is possible that the word given to me in prayer “Sodium Magnate”, refers to a medication that increases blood pressure, boosts energy creation, and increase creation of new blood cells. There is enough evidence to suggest that Epilepsy could be related to blood flow. So in theory it is possible Epilepsy is the bodies way of trying to get blood to the brain easier, by removing the gravitation downward force on blood flow, by causing a person to lie horizontally, in an attempt to supply more energy to the brain when low levels are detected.

I’m sorry but like you said there is no such thing as “sodium magnate” unless you meant Sodium manganate which has a manganese atom in it, not a magnesium atom. If you Google Sodium Magnate it will assume you meant sodium manganate because it just doesn’t exist.

You do find sites claiming that magnesium is good for certain things but you haven’t shown how they might help epilepsy. You tend to make a lot of assumptions & jump to conclusions like if something helps someone with a seizure it must help all epileptics or if low levels of something cause a seizure, high levels of it must stop seizures & that isn’t how biology works. Also, you are equating convulsions (fitting) with seizures & that is not the case as I’ve mentioned before.
Also, I noticed your post is directly cut & pasted from your website where you make similar claims about what you think might help cancer.

 

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A “fit” does not make the body lie flat to lessen gravitational pressure on blood flow. First of all of that were true then all epileptics would have convulsive seizures & they don’t. The majority are partial non-convulsive seizures so that assumption doesn’t apply. Secondly, when convulsing people do not lie flat, they are busy flailing and third, we are built in a way that makes it easy for blood to circulate with minimal gravitational resistance. If there was more force to fight gravity then we’d feel the blood rushing to our heads and feet every time we lay down to sleep.

:agree: I've had many CP seizures while sitting and some while walking, standing. How could we possibly lie flat while convulsing? onder:

First off you have to remember that you listed many things that might cause a seizure but that does not mean they are epileptic seizures which may have very different causes & properties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convulsion

My father suffered a stroke 11 years ago and as a result, he may have night seizures (my mother isn't sure). But his dr. did put him on Clonopin, not for seizures, but to calm him.

You are assuming that because loss of blood might trigger a seizure in non-epileptics that increasing blood flow can cure epileptics. Just because that is 1 thing that causes seizures doesn’t mean that increasing blood flow is a cure for epilepsy besides, You have to remember that lot of other things can cause seizures too.
No research says cardiovascular disease occurs more in epileptics though CV disease can aggravate seizures in people with epilepsy. Don’t assume that one means the other. http://professionals.epilepsy.com/page/cardiac.html

Also, irregular heart beat is a symptom of a seizure. It is not the irregular heartbeat that causes the seizures.
What you said about people healing incorrectly or cellular pathways ceasing to operate at all is so far from the reality of human biology that I suggest you take an introductory biology course to understand how off base your claim is.

Many of us have our heart beat faster during a seizure. That's because our body is working really hard, especially during a TC.

You have to realise that just because your friend had a seizure after drinking beer doesn’t mean it was the beer that caused it & just because he didn’t have a seizure after drinking rum doesn’t mean that there was something in the rum suppressing the seizure either. Those are pretty big assumptions that you have not validated.

Either way, it was alcohol and if one with E drinks alcohol, that could definitely bring on a seizure.

You’re right that triglycerides are fats that store energy and have even been used in a specific diet to help childrens seizures but we get enough triglycerides. Overall, we actually have been eating too many & that’s why we get fast which drains us of energy & lessens circulation.

And too many triglycerides along with carbs can bring on lots more problems.

 

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A “fit” does not make the body lie flat to lessen gravitational pressure on blood flow. First of all of that were true then all epileptics would have convulsive seizures & they don’t. The majority are partial non-convulsive seizures so that assumption doesn’t apply. Secondly, when convulsing people do not lie flat, they are busy flailing and third, we are built in a way that makes it easy for blood to circulate with minimal gravitational resistance. If there was more force to fight gravity then we’d feel the blood rushing to our heads and feet every time we lay down to sleep.

You mention the assumption does not apply to my theory. Yet consider the following, any feature in the brain is controlled by multiple cells. If my theory is true that blood loss fires the fit, then consider the following. If 100 cells were responsible for fitting. If only 10% experience blood loss, only 10 will fire causing a mild seizure, and you will not fall over. If 50% experience blood loss the seizure will be more intense, but you might still remain upright. But if 80% fire it might trigger the type of seizure which causes you to fall. So my theory still works for all seizure types.

What you are saying is that because something looks similar to a seizure (fit) then it must be the same or related & that is not true. Even in your quote it said that it can be “difficult to distinguish from epilepsy” meaning that it is NOT epilepsy and that some patients might inappropriately receive anticonvulsants.

But it is interesting to note people with poor blood flow do have seizures that are so similar to epilepsy that doctors say they can't tell the difference.

You are assuming that because loss of blood might trigger a seizure in non-epileptics that increasing blood flow can cure epileptics. Just because that is 1 thing that causes seizures doesn’t mean that increasing blood flow is a cure for epilepsy besides, You have to remember that lot of other things can cause seizures too. No research says cardiovascular disease occurs more in epileptics though CV disease can aggravate seizures in people with epilepsy. Don’t assume that one means the other.

Interesting CV disease is linked to aggravated seizures, again related to blood flow.

What you said about people healing incorrectly or cellular pathways ceasing to operate at all is so far from the reality of human biology that I suggest you take an introductory biology course to understand how off base your claim is.

But they are dead or inoperable cells, which could do as I said in my post restrict blood flow. But so I can improve my understanding of brain damage how am I wrong.

You’re right that triglycerides are fats that store energy and have even been used in a specific diet to help childrens seizures but we get enough triglycerides. Overall, we actually have been eating too many & that’s why we get fat which drains us of energy & lessens circulation.

So at least in part what I said is true Triglycerides have been used in the treatment of Seizures.


So so far I made the claim that the following things could help Seizures:

• Increased Blood flow - is true for Syncope based Seizures
• Triglycerides - is true for treatment of children with Seizures
• Magnesium - as the author of this thread suggests, and others I have read helps with Seizures
• Sodium - is the only claim that I make that has not yet been proved to help. Yet think of Sodium Valporate. It is Sodium that is used as a carrier for the Valporate component. What if it is the Sodium not Valporate component that is actually helping.

I think it is good to look into all forms of Seizure, blood related Syncope, and brain damage related, and see if there is a link.

I have a real fascination with knowing when seizures occur most commonly in epileptics. Are there any symptoms, or situations that trigger your epilepsy. My friend has seizures around 4 am while sleeping. Which could be related to blood flow, because blood pressure drops as you enter deep sleep. But I am interested to know.